Yep, thats what I in-vision as well

On 11/10/2017 09:36 AM, Colin Stanners wrote:
Spiritual = the socket is inside yourself

SkyPilot = your sockets randomly work a few minutes each day, but with heavy packet loss.

Customer = angry calls threatening to switch providers since 'tower is down', but actually your sockets don't work since their son unplugged the PoE injector to charge his iPhone.

L3 = your sockets are routed to somewhere in Amsterdam

On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 8:48 AM, Josh Luthman <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Open = the outside world can talk to the IP you appear to be
    coming from on port....3074?

    Strict = you can make sockets, kind of like skype, but the world
    can't hit that port

    closed = it can't make sockets


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    On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Not necessarily all, just the ones it needs. uPNP typically
        handles this.



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        I do think they are referring to a DST-NAT or DMZ type of
        situation where all ports are open to specific IP on the
        private side of the router.

        On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 6:48 AM Mike Hammett <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            Pretty sure that's an XBox term.

            It means either your DST-NAT works or it doesn't.



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            Is there an authoritative definition of "Open" vs "Strict"
            NAT?  Or was the term invented by a game console developer?

            I'm just wondering because I don't think I've heard those
            terms in any context other than error messages from
            customer's XBoxes.





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