Thanks Eric, yes a wave on a carriers DWDM chassis.  That takes us back to
my original question.  LAN PHY vs WAN phy.  Is there any reason to use
WANPHY assuming I am just connecting a couple of MXs in two different data
centers?  My thinking is no but I put this out after a couple providers
came back with WANPHY on their quotes.

On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 6:03 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If you're describing a wave service provisioned on a carrier's DWDM
> chassis, for 10G, the ethernet handoff on each side will almost certainly
> be 1310nm/LX. You also need to understand whether it's been built using
> LANPHY or WANPHY (eg: is it an OC192 built on a legacy system or is it a
> native 10Gb Ethernet circuit).
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com
> > wrote:
>
>> This is specifically a wave and not L2 ethernet or MPLS.  Also not dark.
>> We lease a lot of metro dark but this is a regional connection and I have
>> no need or budget for a whole strand on this path.
>>
>> I wouldn't mind colored optics, but this is a pretty heavy regional route
>> and I doubt anyone is running passive DWDM on it.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You should ask your provider, what is being handed to you..
>>> Terminology means little....
>>>
>>> Are you purchasing a lit circuit ? or a dark fiber / dark channel ?
>>>
>>> If it is a lit circuit, you can expect / specify the hand-off on either
>>> SMF or MM optics (SMF is more and more common).
>>> If you are getting a Dark Fiber / Dark Channel, then ask them what type
>>> of optics you need.
>>>
>>> I highly doubt that you are being sold a dark fiber / dark channel..
>>> very likely 10g Lit circuit.. (many carriers use the term Wave to
>>> differentiate between Ethernet / MPLS circuits).
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>> http://www.snappytelecom.net
>>>
>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>>
>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From: *"Carl Peterson" <cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 19, 2017 1:00:54 PM
>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] 10g wave lan phy vs 10g wan phy
>>>
>>> We are about to sign a contract on a 10G wave and I'm trying to figure
>>> out what the wan phys should be and whats the difference. I'm assuming we
>>> would want lan phys.
>>> Does this make sense and would we just use normal 10G optics on each
>>> end?
>>>
>>>
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>>> Carl Peterson
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>>>
>>
>>
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>> Carl Peterson
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>> (410) 637-3707
>>
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