There's a lot to like about that setup. The DR-UPS can do 40amp on 24v, so your upper limit is almost 1kW. Just drive it with a bigger 24v supply as needed.

What has held me back from that in the past is the DR-UPS is not available in 48v, and the biggest power consumers I have are 48V. I went to Traco to stay 48V. OTOH your rig is so much cheaper than Traco that adding an RSD-300B-48 for another $100 is not a bad deal.


------ Original Message ------
From: "David Coudron" <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: 1/28/2018 10:39:56 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion

Here is what we are doing, I think this is close to what Steve is asking for:



Meanwell SDR-240-24 AC to DC power source:  $84

Meanwell DR-UPS40 Battery Float/UPS:  $37

Tycon TPDIN MonitorWeb2:  $131

24 V of battery backup $70-120 depending on the runtime looking for

Netonix 150 W or 250 DC switch: $250-350 (This is really the only expensive component)

Heater:   $65

Fan:  $14



With this, we can run 5-8 hours on very small batteries, we figure we have several hours to get a generator to the site if power isn’t coming back. We run all POE from the Netonix, it works really well. Here are the other things we can do with the box:

Monitor temp in the cabinetMonitor/alert on loss of AC line power through TP DINMonitor voltage of the batteriesMonitor voltage to the NetonixMonitor Current to the NetonixMonitor Current in/out of the batteriesAuto start the heater below 40 degreesAuto start the fan above 80 degreesPower cycle the netonix from the TP DINPower cycle any AP, Router, Backhaul from the Netonix


We also put a Mikrotik router in this cabinet. Usually a Hex POE (for small sites) or a 3011 for larger sites.



We have 13 in the field set up like this and are going 15 more right now. While it might be a little more than what you were thinking, it gives us a ton of control for pretty minimal investment per site.



Best part is, no coding necessary. Doing all this with the Monitor Web2 settings and/or SNMP. Let me know if you are interested in pictures. For this second batch we have started using Terminal blocks to clean up the wiring, the cabinets look a little better, but we went to a smaller poly cabinet that makes things a little tight.



Regards,



David Coudron



From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carl Peterson
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 5:39 PM
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion



You can still do DC-DC off it and then hook up netonix. If I had to do it now I'd go with the IDC switch. When we did our design, the idc didn't exist so we just went down to 24V off of our A and B sides and run a redundant powered 24V bus which all the netonix switches run on.



I better buy up another batch of Elteks before all y'all buy them all up. These are mostly decommissioned Sprint/Clearwire btw.


On Jan 27, 2018, at 1:02 PM, Josh Baird <[email protected]> wrote:

A 12 port version would be nice. Looks like the 26 port version is $600.



On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 12:59 PM, Gino A. Villarini <[email protected]> wrote:

Used to, now with the IDC model is not needed (isolated dc)…



From: Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Josh Baird <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 1:51 PM
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion



Which Netonix are you running at - 48V? Or are you using an isolated DC/DC converter in between the -48V rectifier and Netonix?



On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Gino A. Villarini <[email protected]> wrote:

Refurb/ used Eltek/Valere –48 Rectifier shelf off Ebay ~$400 + 1 Netonix IDC Switch $400… all done. You can power 90% of WISP gear



From: Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Steve Jones <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, January 26, 2018 at 9:49 PM
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion



Any of you folks who know both dc plant and even more know small wisp budget interested in looking at our gear and power setup and giving realistic advice that doesnt have a 10 different 500 dollar components combined with a full time linux guy and a full time coder?



Id love you to do it out of the kindness of your heart, but i do have some advisory busget.



Im just tired of the apc ups waste and super ghetto runtimes on batteries coupled with having to accept we are destroying runtimes by letting the apcs die..... please, somebody, please. Otherwise i have to go to the facebook groups, and thats like going to a mikrotik or ubnt forum.




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