I like Dells, but I have HP's because of the excess/price on eBay.

You are saying HP doesn't support like Dell?

I can believe that.

-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 1:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Server Hardware

In my opinion, check out the firmware / support polices for HP  vs Dell, before 
you make a decision on what hardware to purchase.

:)

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
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> From: "Andreas Wiatowski" <andr...@silowireless.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 1:08:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Server Hardware

> I just pickup off lease HP's on Ebay, lots of ram processors and 
> disk... usually don't pay more than $500-800 for them.  Gen 7 and 8's.  
> Lots of reputable sellers.
> 
> Also, Checkout PROXMOX. It's a pretty cool virtualization platform 
> with a community edition that you hack around to get the latest 
> version. I find it very easy... you can take VMDK files and convert 
> them and spin up a new instance of anything easily.
> 
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>On 2018-02-06, 1:02 PM, "Af on behalf of Nate Burke" 
><af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
> 
>    I'm going to need to bring online a couple new servers (OS Instances) in
>    the next month or 2.  They could probably be housed inside a single
>    physical machine as VM's.  It's been a while since I've had to pickup
>    new server hardware.  What's a good spec now for a machine to do VM's.
>    Are NAS prices cheap enough now that you'd go with external storage, or
>    just have a single physical machine with internal HDD's.  Hardware NAS,
>    or another machine running linux and ZFS?  With external Storage, does
>    it all have to be 10G networking to prevent bottlenecks?  About 6 years
>    ago I put in a single standalone server running VMWare, but it's out of
>    resources to add new VM's to it.
>    
>    It looks like Newegg has lots of Refurb Dell and HP servers (with no
>    HDD's) for cheap.  DL380G5 ~$100.  I'd like to stay in the $2k-$3k range
>    for this project.  Or is hosting your own hardware not even worth it
>    anymore?  Just go get a server from 1and1 for $5/mo setup a VPN back to
>     the network and be done?

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