Don't be a hater

Jaime Solorza

On Feb 13, 2018 7:07 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <> wrote:

> He didn't tell you it is in his underground coffin.
> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018, 6:30 PM <> wrote:
>> Got a guest room waiting for you.
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:21 PM
>> *To:* Animal Farm
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
>> Maybe this summer I might drive up to bother Chuck and Jenny....we are
>> thinking of hiking near 4 corners area. Depends on Windy City schedule and
>> SCADA projects.......I think I can bribe him with choice El Paso eats to
>> let me tour his chop shop.
>> Jaime Solorza
>> On Feb 13, 2018 5:00 PM, "Robert Andrews" <> wrote:
>>> Can I show up in Utah sometime anyways... I am dying to see the new LED
>>> cavern lights...  :)
>>> On 02/13/2018 02:48 PM, wrote:
>>>> Yep, dead of night with greasepaint on my face....  a new list was
>>>> born... again...
>>>> I can name names over at WISPA that caused the problem.... I still
>>>> remember names.....
>>>> But I think we have kinda patched things up.
>>>> They have pretty much co-opted the whole AnimalFarm idea with my
>>>> blessings and I get to go to the show once a year and see y’all.
>>>> As much as I would love to do an old fashioned AnimalFarm, I am too old
>>>> and lazy to put on the show.
>>>> *From:* Chuck Hogg
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:38 PM
>>>> *To:*
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
>>>> Yes, before I was on the Board at WISPA, they had hosted "manufacturer"
>>>> listservs.  Chuck, was the moderator of the list for "motorola" at the
>>>> time, and his list was moved over.  I wanted to host a MikroTik@ list,
>>>> as I was a vendor at the time for WISPA.  That's when sh!t hit the fan,
>>>> some other distributors got butthurt, and WISPA decided that the motorola
>>>> list wasn't Chuck M's, and the MikroTik list wasn't mine anymore. I
>>>> notified Chuck M of the pending issues and how my list was getting ripped
>>>> from under me...and before WISPA could notify Chuck M that his list was
>>>> going to be taken over, Chuck M converted it to the AFMUG list, shut down
>>>> the motorola@wispa list and the AFMUG list was born.  Ahhhh...the
>>>> memories :)
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Chuck
>>>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:23 PM, George Skorup <
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>     Yes, Michael Anderson. He got pissed about the OT stuff on the
>>>>     motorola@ list. IIRC, shortly after the I QUIT incident, the list
>>>>     server went down and he said it was a h/w failure (while out of
>>>>     town? I don't remember if that was the case) and finally brought it
>>>>     back up. But it was too late and AFMUG was born. More accurately,
>>>>     the "Motorola II" list was born, and I believe that was hosted for a
>>>>     short time on the WISPA list serv?
>>>>     I think the combination of WISPAmerica and Animal Farm is great.
>>>>     On 2/13/2018 4:06 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
>>>>         You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got
>>>> here….
>>>>         The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to
>>>> WISPA.          Can’t recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the
>>>>         organization. One day Michael was mad about something and posted
>>>>         the infamous “I quit” email - and that was pretty much the end
>>>>         of Part 15 and the list.  I actually think that was during a
>>>>         Animal Farm session if I recall correctly.
>>>>         Chuck took over the list after that - I don’t think it was
>>>>         called AFMUG at the time, but it later became that.   Might have
>>>>         even been Motorola specific - not that it was ever on topic
>>>> anyway.
>>>>         There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on.   Yes -
>>>>         it’s Chuck’s list though occasionally the members donate money
>>>>         for the cost of hosting it.
>>>>         This list has it’s advantages.   It’s membership leans toward a
>>>>         group of people who have known each other for a very long
>>>>         time.   You probably shouldn’t say bad things about WBMfg
>>>>         products (makes Chuck get all kranky) but everybody else if fair
>>>>         game.  I like it since it’s a place I can say things I can’t
>>>>         really say with a WISPA hat on (or at least I can’t say without
>>>>         blowback to WISPA).
>>>>         Mark
>>>>             On Feb 13, 2018, at 2:13 PM, wrote:
>>>>             Fair warning, Forrest has spam rights too...
>>>>             -----Original Message----- From:
>>>>             Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:03 PM
>>>>             To:
>>>>             Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
>>>>             I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list
>>>>             about once a year.
>>>>             You do realize that this list is my list, right?
>>>>             So essentially every time I make a posting here I am
>>>>             spamming you, right?
>>>>             I used to do it every Friday right here on this list.
>>>>             But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use
>>>> MailChimp.
>>>>             Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp?  That will prevent
>>>>             it from ever
>>>>             happening again.
>>>>             -----Original Message----- From:
>>>>             Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM
>>>>             To:
>>>>             Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
>>>>             I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that?
>>>>             I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists
>>>>             nor done any
>>>>             business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find
>>>>             it in extremely
>>>>             poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets.
>>>>             Jared

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