Done!

http://www.afmug.com/

This is the best cult this side of Waco...

A new slogan for AF!!!

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 9:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

It works fine here. Problem free(ish). Those that want to donate can cover the 
costs. Pauls been very reliable, and never needs a snickers so little to no 
risk of an "i quit" 

Id say we should just have a swear jar, but i dont have that kind of money.

One option would be to stick half the fund drive into something with crypto 
coin shennanigans, cash out 1/2 biannually. But then taxes somewhere...

Having it third party hosted in the manner that it is keeps the list outside 
any individuals attitude, which is pretty good idea. Sure paul can cancel an 
account, but he cant just power down a vm, throttle a connection, not feel like 
dealing with a blacklist issue, withdraw vm host resources, etc, not that i 
think he would.

Not directed at you mike, just a generalization. 

Maybe pimp some friday spam access to some non list member vendors for a fee, 
but we all know, once they come see this place, theyll join up. This is the 
best cult this side of waco. 

On Feb 18, 2018 5:10 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  These guys:
  https://www.emwd.com/mailman-hosting/
  advertise they can do it for $3/month.  

  Perhaps they can.  I just don’t want to make a change I will regret.  And I 
do not want to have to personally be the mechanic.  

  From: Ryan Ray 
  Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 2:02 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

  I agree. Toss some money at him, I'm sure we can spare it 

  On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 12:20 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Yep... this always comes up. I think the consensus has always been that 
it's easier for those of us who are willing, to just chip in occasionally and 
keep it as is, then to mess with what's been working well. 

    On Feb 18, 2018 1:36 PM, "Robert Andrews" <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:

      Seems like this same conversation came up last year.   Folks, if you 
don't want to pay, propose doing the work.   Seems like it's well worth 100 
bucks for the enjoyment I get out of it.  I pay way more than that for things 
way less enjoyable, but necessary to keep peace at home...

      On 02/18/2018 11:30 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

        Then is a pledge drive needed?

        Blacklists are the recipients problems. Not the mailing list owners 
problem - as long as nothing shady is going on.

        On Feb 18, 2018, at 14:15, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net 
<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:


          Those that run the list are happy to pay for not dealing with 
blacklists, etc. whatever SES provides.



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          *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net 
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>
          *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
          *Sent: *Sunday, February 18, 2018 1:12:56 PM
          *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

          What is SES?  Amazon?

          That seems overkill for a mailing list.

          On Feb 18, 2018, at 14:09, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net 
<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:

              SES



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              Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
              
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              *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
              <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>
              *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
              *Sent: *Sunday, February 18, 2018 1:05:36 PM
              *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

              Support of what???

              What the heck costs that much?

              Mailman takes all of 10 minutes to install and just lives after 
that.

              On Feb 18, 2018, at 13:52, Ryan Ray <ryan...@gmail.com
              <mailto:ryan...@gmail.com>> wrote:


                  Last time this was brought up the cost was $3000 for the year
                  including support, $1800 not including support.

                  On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 10:41 AM, Matt Hoppes
                  <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
                  <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:

                      Can it really be more than $5????

                      How much memory, CPU, and storage can a mailing list take
                      when virtualized?

                      On Feb 18, 2018, at 13:20, Keefe John
                      <keefe...@ethoplex.com <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>> 
wrote:

                          Just curious, what are the monthly costs to operate
                          this list?

                          On February 18, 2018 11:13:54 AM CST, Chuck McCown
                          <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

                              I notice it has been a while since we pushed a 
bit to help fund the
                              not-insignificant AWS expense that keeps this 
list alive.

                              Please clean out your couch cushions and paypal 
the revenue created to
                              pa...@pdmnet.net <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>

                              Paul, what is the current status of our deficit?




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