I’d still be shocked if it passes either specification and it has an FCC number.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Keefe John
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 6:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet


That's a good point but I think they are using some DBII 4.9 certified card.

Keefe

On 3/1/2018 4:57 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:
The first problem with this is the system probably isn’t even legal.  Mikrotik 
doesn’t have any certifications in 4.9Ghz, let alone high-power mask.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 2:52 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

and it never will.   But science and politicians don’t seem to go together very 
well.

Mark



On Mar 1, 2018, at 3:55 PM, Keefe John 
<keefe...@ethoplex.com<mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>> wrote:

There's a whole county in Wisconsin who's trying to get 4.9 ghz Mikrotik's to 
service mobile police cars.  They've been working on it for the better part of 
7 years and have invested over a million dollars into the project.  It still 
doesn't work.
Keefe

On 3/1/2018 2:05 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
I liked when the lieutenant at the Toledo police department called us up and 
threatened to come out and shut down our 2.4 AP’s because we were supposedly 
interfering with their ill conceived plan to use WiFi to communicate with 
police cars all over town.

Pretty laughable given that we didn’t have anything in their jurisdiction - or 
even any 2.4 in use.

Mark



On Mar 1, 2018, at 12:47 PM, Bill Prince 
<part15...@gmail.com<mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Down south they call it "All hat, and no cattle."


bp

<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>


On 3/1/2018 8:51 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Yeah, it would be nice to see a ruling to stop this from happening again in the 
future... but my guess is that it's really just an empty threat, and he has no 
intention of actually suing anybody.

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:27 AM, Steve Jones 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I think this is worth pushing to the nth. I like caselaw, fresh caselaw that 
stiffens historic caselaw. I would really like to see at the end of the day, 
the letter recipients divvying up airebeams assets with some sanctions against 
the attorneys office. We should do a gofundme in the industry for the 
recipients to afford the litigation, no settlement, no dismissal, make it get 
to a ruling.

where johnny Cochran

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Mathew Howard 
<mhoward...@gmail.com<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I wonder how often this kind of thing works to just scare people off though... 
I assume they'd eventually lose an actual lawsuit, but even if the new guys 
know that, there's a good chance that they're not going to want to go through 
the whole mess of getting sued, and just try to keep out of their way.
Personally, I think asking nicely to try to avoid interfering with the stuff 
you have up would be a lot more effective...

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 9:48 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
Any local judge would be preempted by FCC.

From: Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 7:20 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

Yeah, that letter isnt about fcc stuff, its about willfully impeding and 
incumbants operations. This fcc talk os what theyre probably expecting the 
people to focus on, but thats not their target. This could be interesting to 
see play out, hopefully it does end up in court just to get fresh caselaw. The 
new operators in the area may suffer a bit if injunctions are in play, but if 
they weather it, theyll win, probably get some time and trouble dough in their 
pockets too.

On Mar 1, 2018 7:42 AM, "Chris Fabien" 
<ch...@lakenetmi.com<mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com>> wrote:
They can't stop you, but they can sue you! Can sue anybody for anything in this 
country right?

In reality, I think the real answer is, the FCC rules on unlicensed freqs and 
how a judge might interpret a case for damages due to lost business due to 
provable radio interference, may be two totally different situations.

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 8:13 AM, Jaime Solorza 
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Send them the Part 15 rules...they can't stop you.
Jaime Solorza

On Feb 28, 2018 9:26 PM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
We cover one of the areas with Airebeam and we can’t install over their old 
customers fast enough.  Ken is backed up at least 3 times what we are backed up.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 9:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

all you need to know about this outfit

" Today is a Great Day!  I cancelled my Airebeam account and switched to 
another company. This company has the worst customer service. They also have 
horrible internet service. They are very unresponsive when there is an issue. 
(and if they did respond, they always blamed the router.) In my opinion, Greg 
does not take the responsibility of owning a business and providing quality 
seriously.
Follow up note:
When Steven (installer) contacted me to pick up equipment, he stated equipment 
that wasn't even theirs. He then proceeded to yell at me. I explained to him 
that he was never to contact me again. The owner, instead of finding a 
solution, threatened to file theft charges. I am more than happy to return 
their equipment, but I don't have to put up with their abusive employees."

https://www.yelp.com/biz/airebeam-arizona-city

not that BBB is legit, but there is this 
https://www.bbb.org/phoenix/business-reviews/internet-providers/airebeam-broadband-in-arizona-city-az-1000033070/reviews-and-complaints

On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 9:45 PM, Steve Jones 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
man, that sucks. He probably paid this lawyer too.

wouldnt it be crazy though if this was a loophole nobody thought of cause its 
too dumb to work, but we didnt take into account the level of dumb in the 
judiciary

On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 9:39 PM, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:


Two guys in Arizona got them but my guess is these people are just fishing.  
I’ve got my attorneys looking it over and I’m going to make an inquiry to the 
Attorney General’s office tomorrow.

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