I think there are maybe two different points being argued here, and they're both right.

It's unquestionably cheaper to outsource one tech support person versus hiring one tech support person.

In a tiny outfit it's also true that you don't hire a person for a single role. There are a million functions to perform in a company, and if you hire someone for one function you are still left with 999,999 things to do, and probably too much labor devoted to the one function.


------ Original Message ------
From: "Matt Hoppes" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]; "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
Sent: 3/26/2018 10:20:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

You're missing my point.

Support calls are maybe 2-4 a week.

But there are minimums with SP. Plus there are the calls that are mis-directed that I would end up paying for, or "Is Matt there?".

BUT... by bringing my sales in-house ($300-$400/month) plus the support (around the same amount) I'm now part way to just hiring someone -- who I can now use for other things.

On 3/26/18 10:15 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Sounds like you have too many support calls. I couldn't possibly hire someone 40 hours a week at minimum wage and get close to my per call cost with ServerPlus...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 4:44 PM, Matt Hoppes <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

   Interesting point. We are at 1,000 subs I and I just did this
   economic model.

   I don’t have 24x7 support. But do have 9-9.

   With a well running network support calls are near nothing. I took
   the money I was going to pay SP and hired staff. Now I have people
   who do phones and other things.

   On Mar 25, 2018, at 06:32, Lewis Bergman <[email protected]
   <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

   I would say that if you want local pronunciations of words you
   should run your open tech support.

   I don't think most people care. They are normally happy just to
   have someone speak English that they can understand. Until you get
   about 8000 subs I doubt you can do it anywhere close to the cost
   that Lane can.

   On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds <[email protected]
   <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ
       <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ>

       "IN-DE GO" :)

       On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes
       <[email protected]
       <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

           It’s In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go. Like a
           butchered version of the six fingered man.

           On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

           That's how it's pronounced...

           Maybe a regional thing?

           On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes"
           <[email protected]
           <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

               GTC does this too. I don’t know why it’s so hard.

               The company I used to work for was “Indigo Wireless”.
               They always say In Dee Go.

               On Mar 11, 2018, at 14:50, Sterling Jacobson
               <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
               wrote:

               They are working well for us, and I have a horrible
               generic support DT, lol!____

               __ __

               I have had zero complaints from my customers so far
               this year, so I think they are doing well.____

               __ __

               The only feedback I’ve had is customers hear our
               company name pronounced five different ways, even
though the DT instructs the proper pronunciation.____

               __ __

               But it’s a made-up name so my customer are always
               confused on pronunciation themselves.____

               __ __

               __ __

               *From:* Af <[email protected]
               <mailto:[email protected]>> *On Behalf Of
*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
               *Sent:* Saturday, March 10, 2018 11:25 AM
               *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
               *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus____

               __ __

               I would add that Layne’s service is only as good as
               the decision tree that you provide to him.  The more
               detailed DT, the better the service will be. ____

               ____

               *From:*Layne Sisk ____

               *Sent:*Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:48 AM____

               *To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ____

               *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus____

               ____

               I would like to share some solid stats with the
               group.  Please see those below.  The comment about a
               decline is hard to address without looking at
               stats.  Kind of like the user that calls you and
               vaguely  says “My internet seems slow” when you have
               stats that show they are getting more than they are
               paying for.  We have hired a number of new people
               recently because we have grown and have added a new
               office but as Justin said this is a slow time of the
               year so we also took advantage of this time to get
               rid of some of our weaker performers.  Here are the
               company wide stats for the past week with some
               comments about them, I would stack these up against
               any call center in the world.  Sorry if I come on
               strong, but as you all know this is my baby and I
               care a lot about it just like you do about your
               networks.  I know we are not perfect, out of 6000
               calls I am sure we made a mistake or two and I am
               happy to address any individual issue directly, but
               I am pretty proud of what we do. ____

               ____

               ____

               *_OFFICE STATS_____*


               *______*


               *______*


               *______*


               *______*


               *_SP_____*


               *_GOAL_____*


               *_Comment_____*

               *AVERAGE TALK TIME____*


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               0:11:05____


               0:10:00____


               Down from over 13 min 2 months ago____

               *  TOTAL TALK TIME VS SCHEDULED____*


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               69.94%____


               80%____


               This is agent utilization____

               *SURVEY SCORE____*


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               91.66%____


               95%____


91.66% of callers would recommend the service That is a number any company would kill for____

               *SURVEY TAKEN____*


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               20.57%____


               20%____


               A full 20% of callers responded to our survey, that
               number is unheard of____

               *TECH ESCALATION____*


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               39.31%____


               20%____


               Higher escalation percentage this week because of
               the storms and significant network outages____

               *ESCALATION APPROVAL TIME____*


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               0:11:47____


               0:10:00____


               Down from over 30 min 4 months ago____

               *QA SCORE____*


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               92.05%____


               95%____


               Happy to share our QA form with anyone who would
               like to see it____

               *____*


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____

               *____*


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____

               *_COMPANY STATS_____*


               *______*


               *______*


               *______*


               *______*


               *_SP_____*


               *_GOAL_____*


               *______*

               *____*


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____

               *CALL WAIT TIME____*


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               0:01:52____


               2:00____


               Less than 2 min wait time even though our SLA is
               less than 3____

               *BILLABLE CALLS____*


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               6112____


               10,000____


               Reflection of the slow season____

               *____*


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____

               *ABANDONED TIME____*


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               0.37____


               2:00____


               Outage recordings cause people to hang up once they
               hear the recording____

               *____*


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____

               *____*


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____

               *CALLS TAKEN PER HOUR____*


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               4.10____


               5.45____


               This is calls answered per worked hour____

               *____*


               ____


               ____


               ____


               ____


               *____*


               ____


               ____

               ____

               ____

               Layne Sisk____

               ServerPlus____

               801.426.8283, ext 102
               <tel:801.426.8283%2C%20ext%20102>____

               <image001.png> <http://www.serverplus.com/>____

http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png____

http://i.imgur.com/xvQYYWa.png
               <https://www.facebook.com/ServerPlus365/>____

http://i.imgur.com/ELG0AB1.png
               <https://twitter.com/RealServerPlus>____

               <image002.jpg> <image003.png><image004.jpg> ____

               ____

               *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf
               Of *Steve Jones
               *Sent:* Friday, March 09, 2018 10:30 PM
               *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
               *Subject:* [AFMUG] Serverplus____

               ____

               Has anyone noted a consistent decline in quality
               with these guys, and a large number of different
               tech names in their tickets?____

               Its almost looking like they outsourced their
               outsourcing.____




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