Yeah, older Mikrotiks are the only thing that I can remember ever running
into problems with at that voltage... but as you said, they belong in the
round filing cabinet anyway.

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 11:27 AM, George Skorup <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I set the no-load float voltage at 27.6 for the AD-155B's. Got some older
> RocketM's on 40-80 feet of cable and they've been fine.
>
> The only real issue I've had is gear at the bottom not liking the higher
> voltage. Mostly older RB493's, which I replaced and threw in the round
> filing cabinet.
>
> On 5/15/2018 10:37 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>
> Yeah, in that case you're not going to have much drop. The only reason I
> shoot for 27.4v is to match the float voltage on batteries - if you don't
> have to deal with that, just set it to 26v, or so and you won't need to
> worry about anything.
>
> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Josh Luthman <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Reason I ask is if at the bottom I believe it's 24v and the top it's
>> 24v.  I'm using that heavy duty coax (inch and a half?) up the tower for my
>> DC.  I think the center conductor was 8mm.
>>
>> If you're doing say 27.4v at the bottom and 100' of two pair 24 gauge,
>> it's more like 26.83v at the top.  I'm not losing that ~0.6v.
>>
>> I really don't want to fry anything and start replacing radios :(
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
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>> Suite 1337
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>> Troy, OH 45373
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>>
>> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 11:15 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> The UBNT stuff used to be a lot more sensitive than it is.   Anything
>>> modern should be fine up to 28V on the 24V radios.
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 7:34 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sweet!  I'll crank up the power supply another volt.  IIRC Ubnt stuff
>>>> dies at 26 or 27 volts, so you can see why I aimed for right at 24v.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 9:21 AM, Josh Baird <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Agreed.  I expect your issues will go away if you increase voltage.
>>>>> We run all ePMP @ 48VDC.  It fixed these random rebooting issues for us.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 6:37 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 22.93 is too low.   Cambium says 23V is the minimum into the radio.
>>>>>> See http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-Installatio
>>>>>> n/ePMP-PoE-Powering-Primer/td-p/49944
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You need to subtract a bit of loss inside the injector, and then a
>>>>>> bit more for cabling.   Plus a bit more for everything else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For verification, I took my bench ePMP and hooked it up to my power
>>>>>> supply - it doesn't even turn on until 22.5V at the radio.   I'm sure 
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> copies are probably higher or lower.   And I'm sure it changes with
>>>>>> internal temperature of the radio.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One big difference between the PoE Injector and the SyncInjector is
>>>>>> that the syncinjector uses semiconductor switches which generally have a
>>>>>> bit more voltage drop than a relay.  The tradeoff is that the 
>>>>>> semiconductor
>>>>>> switches can switch far more power than the relays can and can switch
>>>>>> quickly enough to do sync over power.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 10:26 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So we replaced all 8 surge cards.  It's getting 22.95 and 22.93 for
>>>>>>> the two boxes (to the green terminal).  Devices are still rebooting...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Epmp never has problems with the same DC supply through the green
>>>>>>> POE injector, forgot to mention that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 8:14 PM, George Skorup <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Funny story if you were using ePMP near the beginning. Some of the
>>>>>>>> first original 5GHz integrated radios had labels marked 56VDC. They 
>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>> definitely NOT capable of being powered from 48/56V. Somebody screwed 
>>>>>>>> up.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah. We've run Force180/200 survey setups on a small 12V SLA too.
>>>>>>>> It works, but they're rated at 14 volts. Same with the 100 and 450 SMs.
>>>>>>>> Still works. However, I recall the regulator is very inefficient down 
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> low. Like the old 320 and 430 APs could be run on 24VDC, but you really
>>>>>>>> didn't want to do that, and Motorola/Cambium said it was completely
>>>>>>>> unsupported.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/6/2018 5:13 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I had a portable 12V battery that I would use for site surveys
>>>>>>>>> with the old PMP100. I'm pretty sure they would function in the 8-10V
>>>>>>>>> region.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I know nothing about the ePMP radios. Trust George.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5/6/2018 2:33 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Original 5GHz integrated and connectorized are 14-30VDC, -4/5
>>>>>>>>>> +7/8 only.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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