do you like liability and property damage? cause thats how you get
liability and property damage

fees range from 5-25 for rustic no power/water/etc to 150/night depending
on the park. but 30-50 is average with power and water

On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 10:40 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> What does a traveler expect to pay to park in one of these places?  I have
> about 10 acres next to I-80 with water, power and sewer already installed.
> I could lay down some gravel and put up a sign.
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 31, 2018 9:39 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RV park network design
>
> industrial vending machine selling routers.
> Im trying to get the one we are doing to finger conduit to each site post
> for future use, whether fiber or copper
>
> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Cameron Crum <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> You'd be surprised. A lot of them travel with their own cable modems and
>> wifi routers. But you could always rent them one, or set up each ONT with a
>> small wifi router already and give them a choice.
>>
>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 10:05 AM, Jason McKemie <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Probably zero.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 31, 2018, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> How many RV travelers are set up for ethernet vs WiFi?
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Jason McKemie
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 31, 2018 6:42 AM
>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RV park network design
>>>>
>>>> I'd do fiber as well, seems like that many long-run cat5/6 connections
>>>> could be problematic.
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, May 30, 2018, Cameron Crum <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why run ethernet? This seems ideal for fiber. Put a small box for the
>>>>> ONT on the same pole as the electrical hookup with about 20 ft of ethernet
>>>>> cable so they can drag it through a window and call it a day. Rent them a
>>>>> cheap router if they want wifi or mount a small loco ac or something
>>>>> running as a low powered AP and alternate frequencies every 3 or 4 spaces.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 2:57 PM, Colin Stanners <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Be careful of selling service over Wi-FI... customers buy "signal
>>>>>> boosters" that run their own DHCP server, or they see a very strong 
>>>>>> signal
>>>>>> to their booster and complain that their service sucks (don't understand
>>>>>> that the signal from the booster to your network is low). And there's
>>>>>> interference from mobile hotspots etc....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would do like Adam says, run ethernet lines everywhere with
>>>>>> outdoor-grade ethernet connection boxes (make sure to have a surge
>>>>>> protector on each line as it returns to your switch). You can try 
>>>>>> offering
>>>>>> some service over wifi but tell customers that if they want reliable 
>>>>>> speeds
>>>>>> they need to hardwire.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 1:07 PM, castarritt <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We were approached by a current subscriber who is building an RV
>>>>>>> park with around ~100 pads, and he wants us to offer service to his
>>>>>>> tenants.  This isn't the typical situation where we would sell service 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> the RV park, and they handle distributing it to their customers.  He 
>>>>>>> wants
>>>>>>> to avoid providing wi-fi himself, and will instead let us charge every
>>>>>>> client that wants service separately.  Also, this isn't a campground; 
>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>> shortest lease term will be monthly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While the park is under construction, he is willing to let us lay
>>>>>>> conduit, so we could provide wired service to each pad if we wanted to.
>>>>>>> Alternatively, we could just setup a bunch of wi-fi APs.  One potential
>>>>>>> complication is that we have a fairly busy cluster of 5g PMP450s a 
>>>>>>> couple
>>>>>>> hundred yards from this RV park, so while wired service could be more
>>>>>>> reliable for the park tenants, the potential for 100 customer wi-fi 
>>>>>>> routers
>>>>>>> we can't control operating within sight of our PMP450 POP sounds like 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> stuff of nightmares.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We are leaning more towards a wi-fi option due to better control
>>>>>>> over spectrum, as well as avoiding maintenance of 100 outdoor ethernet
>>>>>>> ports that the customers would be plugging into, but we are open to
>>>>>>> suggestions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, assuming wi-fi is the correct answer, does anyone have any
>>>>>>> equipment recommendations?  The park is about 400' by 900'.  I was 
>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>> at either doing a whole bunch of low end APs, or maybe ~8 sectors.  We
>>>>>>> haven't used any of the Cambium wi-fi gear yet, but the cnPilot E501S 
>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>> interesting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris Starritt
>>>>>>> Western Broadband
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>> 512-257-1077
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
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