Hello everybody,
In deed, I've got scholarship to attend Wikimania this year. Emna (in cc) from
Tunisia will be also there.
Mohamed Bachounda from Algeria, Walaa Abdelmanaem and May Hashem from Tunisia
are going to Mexico also.
The African stand is a good idea but we have to organize a permanent
representatives, last year in London we were so busy with the Wikimedia TN User
group stand that I missed several sessions in Wikimania that's why, this year I
made a request to be represented as a member of the WikiFranca stand (I didn't
knew about African's one).
I will not present all time at WikiFranca and Emna could help me to represent
Tunisia in both.
So, we will bring some leaflets about out activities and some foods from
Tunisia.
Best,
Habib
Le 16 juin 2015 12:17:25 CET, [email protected] a
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>Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 11:05:18 +0000
>From: Nkansah Rexford <[email protected]>
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>I think Habib said he did get a scholarship. That makes it four from
>Africa.
>
>Rexford | khophi.co
>On Jun 16, 2015 11:03 AM, "Isla at the Africa Centre" <
>[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Basically, as far as I see Florence’s proposal, its about either the
>> wikipedia work within Africa is not visible at all (because none of
>us are
>> there), or that people can see that we exist and what we have
>achieved over
>> the last year - even if it is in leaflets that are left on an
>unmanned
>> table.
>>
>> Essentially, we were just not invited. I didn’t get a scholarship
>either.
>> The only ones I know who did are Douglas and Bobby, and Dumi as he is
>on
>> the FDC committee - perhaps Habib did? Nobody else managed. 2 or 3
>people
>> from Africa doesn’t seem like even 5% of the scholarships to me, but
>I
>> could be wrong.
>>
>>
>> On 16 Jun 2015, at 12:57 PM, Felix Nartey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Not like that but rather a unified or collective effort towards
>showcasing
>> what each country has got in representing Africa.
>>
>> Felix
>> On Jun 16, 2015 10:32 AM, "Nkansah Rexford"
><[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That will mean representatives from each country at the Africa space
>will
>>> take turns in manning the space?
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 16, 2015, Felix Nartey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I am in support of Florence's suggestion especially in this case
>where
>>>> there isn't enough representation from Africa.
>>>>
>>>> It won't make sense if only Bobby reserves a space for Wikimedia ZA
>or
>>>> Habib for Tunisia Use group at the community village. Even if they
>decide
>>>> to, that means they will hardly enjoy the conference since most of
>their
>>>> time will be spent under their space and more especially when they
>are just
>>>> one each representing their respective countries.
>>>>
>>>> I am saddened to say that Africa will be highly underrepresented at
>this
>>>> year's Wikimania. I hope this doesn't repeat in subsequent years.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Felix
>>>> On Jun 16, 2015 8:32 AM, "Florence Devouard" <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Rex
>>>>>
>>>>> The main reason why I was suggesting a collective table is that I
>am
>>>>> NOT sure there will be participants from many countries.
>>>>> As hinted by Raphael, there will be no one from Ghana. Will they
>be
>>>>> anyone from Ivory Coast ? From Uganda ? From Ethiopia ? Even from
>South
>>>>> Africa ? etc.
>>>>> The other thing is that even if there ONE person (or even 2) from
>a
>>>>> country... it is unlikely that he will manage the table all by
>himself
>>>>> during three days. He better enjoy moving around and benefit from
>all what
>>>>> Wikimania can offer.
>>>>>
>>>>> It may be that Tunisia has enough participants to be able to
>manage a
>>>>> table. It may be that they will be the only ones. I do not know if
>they
>>>>> asked for a table.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, a collective table would have the following benefits
>>>>> * team work, getting to know each other better
>>>>> * showing the other wikimedians what is being done in Africa.
>>>>> * showing them as well that Africa still need way more
>representation...
>>>>> * insure a little presence even from missing countries
>>>>>
>>>>> And yeah... I am also thinking that in case we have a table and in
>case
>>>>> it has no volunteer managing the table during most of Wikimania,
>it somehow
>>>>> also carries a strong message.
>>>>> "African wikimedians do exist but they are not here"
>>>>>
>>>>> Ant
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 16/06/15 01:25, Nkansah Rexford a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Florence,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have no idea who is coming from Ghana to Wikimania this year
>>>>> (perhaps someone will, yet isn't within our community that we
>know). As at
>>>>> now, no one confirmed from our end here concerning attending
>wikimania
>>>>>
>>>>> During Wikimania London, I remember there was not an explicitly
>>>>> assigned collective space for African teams, but the African teams
>were in
>>>>> close proximity, in fact, in a sequential order. The teams
>weren't under
>>>>> the 'Africa' collective name, but it was easy finding where the
>African
>>>>> teams were located.
>>>>>
>>>>> The sequence was ZA, Ghana, and Tunisia:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Village#Map_of_the_Community_Village
>>>>>
>>>>> How about instead of requesting for a collective space 'for
>Africa',
>>>>> maybe during the placing and arrangement of African teams in the
>community
>>>>> village structure, African teams are placed in sequence? ex. say,
>Ghana -
>>>>> Table 1, Tunisia - Table 2, ZA - Table 3, then other communities
>follow,
>>>>> so with a stop at Table - 1, it easier spotting subsequent African
>>>>> countries, just like it was arranged for London?
>>>>>
>>>>> rex
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, June 15, 2015, Florence Devouard <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Eh !
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You have been very silent on this topic my friends :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No feedback at all ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ant
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 11/06/15 12:54, Florence Devouard a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello everyone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Isla and I were talking about Wikimania this morning and an idea
>>>>>>> showed up :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It seems there will be a "community village" this year in Mexico
>:
>>>>>>> https://wikimania2015.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Village
>>>>>>> Last year, it was very successful in London and many chapters
>had
>>>>>>> their own space.
>>>>>>> In most cases, there were 2-4 people sitting at each space to
>answer
>>>>>>> any question. Posters, leaflets, books and more generally
>marketing
>>>>>>> material. And food.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whilst it would be probably challenging to imagine a space for
>each
>>>>>>> user-group/chapter in Africa, we could maybe share a collective
>space to
>>>>>>> represent Africa and what is being done here. What do you think
>?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Through Kumusha and Wiki Loves Africa, we have a bunch of
>objects we
>>>>>>> can show. I remember South Africa had made some leaflets about
>some of
>>>>>>> their projects. I know Ivory Coast has made some as well. What
>do you have
>>>>>>> to share that we could put on a collective table ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, amongst the recognized user groups, did some already
>request a
>>>>>>> space ? (Tunisia ?)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And who is coming to Wikimania ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anthere
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 11:17:22 +0000
>From: Felix Nartey <[email protected]>
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>Rex don't get the figures wrong, it's just 3 and not 4.
>
>Dumi is going on the ticket of the FDC. Plus I agree, the numbers are
>not
>encouraging for Africa. I don't think our number even constitutes 2% of
>the
>total scholarships given and I hope this is looked into for future
>purposes.
>On Jun 16, 2015 11:05 AM, "Nkansah Rexford" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>> I think Habib said he did get a scholarship. That makes it four from
>> Africa.
>>
>> Rexford | khophi.co
>> On Jun 16, 2015 11:03 AM, "Isla at the Africa Centre" <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Basically, as far as I see Florence’s proposal, its about either the
>>> wikipedia work within Africa is not visible at all (because none of
>us are
>>> there), or that people can see that we exist and what we have
>achieved over
>>> the last year - even if it is in leaflets that are left on an
>unmanned
>>> table.
>>>
>>> Essentially, we were just not invited. I didn’t get a scholarship
>either.
>>> The only ones I know who did are Douglas and Bobby, and Dumi as he
>is on
>>> the FDC committee - perhaps Habib did? Nobody else managed. 2 or 3
>people
>>> from Africa doesn’t seem like even 5% of the scholarships to me, but
>I
>>> could be wrong.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16 Jun 2015, at 12:57 PM, Felix Nartey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Not like that but rather a unified or collective effort towards
>>> showcasing what each country has got in representing Africa.
>>>
>>> Felix
>>> On Jun 16, 2015 10:32 AM, "Nkansah Rexford"
><[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That will mean representatives from each country at the Africa
>space
>>>> will take turns in manning the space?
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, June 16, 2015, Felix Nartey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am in support of Florence's suggestion especially in this case
>where
>>>>> there isn't enough representation from Africa.
>>>>>
>>>>> It won't make sense if only Bobby reserves a space for Wikimedia
>ZA or
>>>>> Habib for Tunisia Use group at the community village. Even if they
>decide
>>>>> to, that means they will hardly enjoy the conference since most of
>their
>>>>> time will be spent under their space and more especially when they
>are just
>>>>> one each representing their respective countries.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am saddened to say that Africa will be highly underrepresented
>at
>>>>> this year's Wikimania. I hope this doesn't repeat in subsequent
>years.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Felix
>>>>> On Jun 16, 2015 8:32 AM, "Florence Devouard" <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Rex
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The main reason why I was suggesting a collective table is that I
>am
>>>>>> NOT sure there will be participants from many countries.
>>>>>> As hinted by Raphael, there will be no one from Ghana. Will they
>be
>>>>>> anyone from Ivory Coast ? From Uganda ? From Ethiopia ? Even from
>South
>>>>>> Africa ? etc.
>>>>>> The other thing is that even if there ONE person (or even 2) from
>a
>>>>>> country... it is unlikely that he will manage the table all by
>himself
>>>>>> during three days. He better enjoy moving around and benefit from
>all what
>>>>>> Wikimania can offer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It may be that Tunisia has enough participants to be able to
>manage a
>>>>>> table. It may be that they will be the only ones. I do not know
>if they
>>>>>> asked for a table.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, a collective table would have the following benefits
>>>>>> * team work, getting to know each other better
>>>>>> * showing the other wikimedians what is being done in Africa.
>>>>>> * showing them as well that Africa still need way more
>>>>>> representation...
>>>>>> * insure a little presence even from missing countries
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And yeah... I am also thinking that in case we have a table and
>in
>>>>>> case it has no volunteer managing the table during most of
>Wikimania, it
>>>>>> somehow also carries a strong message.
>>>>>> "African wikimedians do exist but they are not here"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ant
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 16/06/15 01:25, Nkansah Rexford a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Florence,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have no idea who is coming from Ghana to Wikimania this year
>>>>>> (perhaps someone will, yet isn't within our community that we
>know). As at
>>>>>> now, no one confirmed from our end here concerning attending
>wikimania
>>>>>>
>>>>>> During Wikimania London, I remember there was not an explicitly
>>>>>> assigned collective space for African teams, but the African
>teams were in
>>>>>> close proximity, in fact, in a sequential order. The teams
>weren't under
>>>>>> the 'Africa' collective name, but it was easy finding where the
>African
>>>>>> teams were located.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The sequence was ZA, Ghana, and Tunisia:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Village#Map_of_the_Community_Village
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How about instead of requesting for a collective space 'for
>Africa',
>>>>>> maybe during the placing and arrangement of African teams in the
>community
>>>>>> village structure, African teams are placed in sequence? ex. say,
>Ghana -
>>>>>> Table 1, Tunisia - Table 2, ZA - Table 3, then other communities
>follow,
>>>>>> so with a stop at Table - 1, it easier spotting subsequent
>African
>>>>>> countries, just like it was arranged for London?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> rex
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, June 15, 2015, Florence Devouard <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eh !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have been very silent on this topic my friends :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No feedback at all ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ant
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le 11/06/15 12:54, Florence Devouard a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello everyone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Isla and I were talking about Wikimania this morning and an
>idea
>>>>>>>> showed up :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It seems there will be a "community village" this year in
>Mexico :
>>>>>>>> https://wikimania2015.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Village
>>>>>>>> Last year, it was very successful in London and many chapters
>had
>>>>>>>> their own space.
>>>>>>>> In most cases, there were 2-4 people sitting at each space to
>answer
>>>>>>>> any question. Posters, leaflets, books and more generally
>marketing
>>>>>>>> material. And food.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Whilst it would be probably challenging to imagine a space for
>each
>>>>>>>> user-group/chapter in Africa, we could maybe share a collective
>space to
>>>>>>>> represent Africa and what is being done here. What do you think
>?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Through Kumusha and Wiki Loves Africa, we have a bunch of
>objects we
>>>>>>>> can show. I remember South Africa had made some leaflets about
>some of
>>>>>>>> their projects. I know Ivory Coast has made some as well. What
>do you have
>>>>>>>> to share that we could put on a collective table ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, amongst the recognized user groups, did some already
>request a
>>>>>>>> space ? (Tunisia ?)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And who is coming to Wikimania ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anthere
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> <http://khophi.co/about>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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