HI Flo Thanks very much for getting back to me. I've added the country list and the Commons category link.
I had thought about transferring this to a Wiki page, however I wanted to explore the idea of an automated multilingual project page. I think this approach has a couple of benefits over running it on a wiki page (I'm sorry, I should have explained my thought process more clearly why I'm trying this approach) - Interwiki links are always blue, just like on Meta, meaning it wouldn't be possible to see what has been created and what hasn't. This list shows what is missing. - This tool generates a list, I don't have to make it by hand. - It takes a really long time to create a table and I am able to add new languages to this tool in a minute. - Tables aren't always the easiest things for people to edit to update the result, this tool does it automatically. I know that WMF are working on a translation project tool that would let us run projects like this very easily, I've emailed to see how its getting on. I will keep working on it :) On 26 April 2016 at 22:50, Florence Devouard <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Le 26/04/16 14:54, john cummings a écrit : > > Hi all > > > hi John > > > I have met a few of you over Skype and in person before at Wikimedia > events, I'm currently working at UNESCO. > > May 5th is African World Heritage Day and I was thinking about running a > small online campaign for it. > > http://whc.unesco.org/en/news/1364/ > > I have an idea and would like to know what you thought and how it could be > improved upon. > > I think it is a great idea... > > > I would like to encourage editors in many languages to write Wikipedia and > Wikivoyage articles about the World Heritage sites in Africa through social > media and also on Wikipedia and Wikivoyage. > > I want to make this as multilingual as possible so I've used dynamic > Wikidata Lists to create this table which shows which articles are > available in which language. I think its a really nice way to create a > project 'hit list' using Wikidata. > > https://tools.wmflabs.org/listeria/dynamic.html?#list=148 > > There are a few Wikidata items down the bottom of the list that are blank > or with very few articles, I need to fix this, they're duplicate items so > don't point to any articles or only one or two. > > > Great table > The one thing I am missing here to make it appealing is... > 1) the name of the country where the site is located > 2) whether there is at least an image of the site, or not. Ideally... link > to Commons category page IF it can be automated. > > My personal suggestions are > 1) that table should be transfered on a wiki page > 2) that it be divided in two tables actually... one about wikipedia and > the other about wikivoyage > 3) name of country added > 4) organise it per country perhaps ? > 5) for each article, we could add an indicator to show the general state > of it (without making it painful. Something fairly simple) > > Whilst meta would be a cool place to coordinate that... the real effect is > ON the project itself (Wikipedia...) for a simple good reason... it is > exciting to see the blue links and the red links. > On meta... everything is blue... whether it exists or does not exist. > > > > Some questions I'm currently thinking about: > > - What languages should be included in the list? The languages I > currently have are the 6 UN languages + a few other popular languages but > this is easy to change. > > am not sure > > > - What should be the aim of the campaign? E.g to create articles where > they don't exist in smaller Wikipedias. > > well... I have a question. I see 137 items (and you say a few are > duplicates). Do those are the entirety of WH sites ? (= is there at least > one article in one language for each site; or are some sites missing ? If > some are missing... how many sites are missing ? ) > If ALL sites are listed here... make it a call for translation (and > improvement if people feel like it) > If SOME sites are missing... make it a call to make sure that ALL sites > have at least one article in a language > > Make it a 2-4 weeks effort. > > > > - Should I include both Wikivoyage and Wikipedia or just stick to > Wikipedia, or should I split into two tables? > > both. Two tables > > > - Is the tool easy enough for experienced editors to use to find where > articles don't exist yet? Its a shame they can't click on a button where > the gap is to just write or translate the article. > > Not simple enough. Should be a wiki table with links to explain rules and > translation tool etc. > > > - Does anyone want to work with me on this? > > I love it. Not sure how much time I will have to dedicate to it though. On > the 5th, unless it is cancelled, I will be travelling (somewhere in > Marocco). But I can help a bit I am sure. > > > > - Where and how should we encourage people to take part > > On social media, we have plenty of accounts to relay this (usergroups, > wikilovesafrica, wikiafrica etc.). Project pages could be created on local > wikipedias.... we can quite easily do it in French and English. But need to > find local relays for other languages (if no local relay... use meta at > least to have a global page and tables). Can get Wikimedia Foundation to do > a blog (ask Ed). Then village pumps. Some mouvements can help relay as > well, such as WikiFranca. > > > - Does this need a homepage or can it simply be a tweet that can be > translated? This would allow it to be shared in many languages easily. > > Depends how much time you can dedicate to this. But the idea seems cool > enough to do more than a tweet. > > All thoughts welcome > > > Flo > > > Thanks > > John > > > -- > > > > > _______________________________________________ > African-Wikimedians mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians > >
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