Yup
People could add their name here if they wanted !
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/participants
Le 08/03/2017 à 10:49, Olatunde Isaac a écrit :
Hi Flo,
Is there a link to page to record the name of the main participants? Apology,
if I missed this already
Best,
Isaac
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From: Florence Devouard <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 02:03:24
To: <[email protected]>; Mailing list for African
Wikimedians<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [African Wikimedians] 16WikiWomen Translation Drive
Thanks for the proposal to help Isaac.
I think I will cut the pear in half. I will look at each page history to
record the name of the main participants (the people we really love and
want to know more). Because this is what is important to me :)
But I will not try to count every single participant. Because it just
came to my mind that I have no obligations to do that. Uh.
Of course, if someone is interested tracking... please feel free. This
is a wiki.
In the meanwhile... we are doing pretty well generally.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/tracking
We now have 11/16 articles with at least 10 linguistic versions (at
various stages of developement) and the most covered is in 22 languages.
Many articles in Igbo, Yoruba, Swahili and Hausa appeared in the past
few hours. Yeah !!!
Such as
* https://yo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Karua
* https://sw.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Tibaijuka
* https://ig.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatou_Bensouda
We got only one in Afrikaans (provided by Isla actually)
* https://af.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaa_Asantewaa
(help more ?)
We have a very strong participation rate in Spanish, Catalan, Hebrew,
Punjabi. Those people rock.
A bunch of other languages here and around (I loved the Haitien Creole
one ;))
* https://ht.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaa_Asantewaa
I am a bit disappointed in a rather low participation in Arabic, German
and Portuguese, even though several people did really help to motivate
the editors in the respective wikis.
For example, Gereon set up a coordination page on de
(https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Translate-a-thon_für_16_afrikanische_Frauen),
I posted in the pump area. People like Mounir helped to inform the
arabic community and also tweeted about it. I dropped various messages
in a few pumps. Isla also extended invitations to various people. So
they knew... But still... de, ar and pt ... stayed low activity. Oh well.
If you can relay... we have 24 hours left to improve that :)
Happy Women Day !
Flo
Le 07/03/2017 à 10:26, Olatunde Isaac a écrit :
Hi Flo,
I am sorry to lean that you had difficult time dealing with tracking
participants. Actually, I foresee the challenge in tracking participants from
the onset and this is why I earlier proposed something close to option 2.
Considering the time and the technicality involves in the tracking, I think we
could go with option 3 at this time. I understand that this could be
time-consuming but it's not a difficult thing. I could help with it and
Interested members of the Wiki Loves Women team could join us. I think we
shouldn't leave this task for you alone.
Best,
Isaac
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-----Original Message-----
From: Florence Devouard <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 09:12:00
To: <[email protected]>; Mailing list for African
Wikimedians<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [African Wikimedians] 16WikiWomen Translation Drive
On that matter... to propose a follow up of our prior conversation on
the foundation list Isaac... I must confess i have not been able to find
anyone to help me create automatically the list of participants to the
translation drive.
I have tried myself quite a bit (and failed). A few others have tried as
well but obviously could not really figure out how to do the query.
So I am still with my 2 cents question...
* list of all editors (by username)
* who edited articles where talk pages are from that category
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Wiki_Loves_Women_translation)
* in a list of languages (the full list is here :
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/languages
but any query with 2 languages will do. I can then adapt it myself to
add the other languages)
* between date 1 and date 2 (practically speaking between 20th of Feb
and the 08 of March 2017)
* information to display : username, article name, language of the
article edited
Current best outcome is
https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/17110
It displays editors to those pages in English only. And no timestamps.
Beside solving the stamping issue, there are basically three options
left to get this type of outcome for the whole drive.
1. Option 1
Figure out a way to do that query... not based on the category the
articles belong to, but based on the WikiData item. This would probably
allow to dig into info from any linguistic version of each article.
I have been trying to find someone to help me do that for the past 2
weeks, with no good results. I fail to see why spending hours one more
day would make a big difference so I am giving up on that option.
2. Option 2
Add equivalent categories to articles in all linguistic versions so that
we could track them with that query model. Main problem is language... I
can manage French... that's all. I could add an English based template
in Spanish or Catalan I guess. But arabic, punjabi, hebrew... are
just... impossible for me. I can't my way to these talk pages. Doing
this would probably imply to find someone to help tag the pages for
every covered language. Chances to succeed doing that in less than 24
hours are next to zero.
What I have been doing in English is adding to all talk page of each
article this template :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:WikiProject_Wiki_Loves_Women_16WikiWomen
And of course, from a query perspective, we would still have the problem
of the timestamp (how to find out the people who edited the biographies
AFTER the 19th of February). So we would only get the list of all people
who ever edited those articles which is different from "all people who
participated".
3. Option 3
Manually go to every single article version and copy paste the username
of people who edited the article by hand in the meta page. At the
moment, this is the only feasible option. But that would take me the
best part of the day probably. And I don't have that.
So... well... that was an experiment and I found it fun generally. But I
must admit a failure in tracking participants. It would have been nice
but I will not provide figures of "how many people participated" because
the current system as is does NOT allow me to find that anwer without
spending HOURS digging for it. In theory, there are ways to do that, but
in practice, it is simply too time consuming. And I think the time I
already spend on this... could have been better spent elsewhere.
Florence
Le 07/03/2017 à 07:20, Olatunde Isaac a écrit :
Dear all,
The 16WikiWomen Translation Drive was covered in Brazilian media yesterday [1].
Congratulations to the organizers and participants.
This is also to remind you that tomorrow is the International Women's Day.
Let's celebrate African women together by joining the 16WikiWomen translation
Drive. Can't wait to read about African women in local languages.
Best,
Isaac
1.
www.cartaeducacao.com.br/reportagens/wikipedia-destaca-mulheres-africanas-em-edicao-especial/
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