If some big stakeholders decided to go IPv6-only, what would happen to smaller organizations? Would they be able to change fast enough to stay in business?

Lee

On 3/12/19 5:01 AM, Big Jayz wrote:

Looking at consolidation of the Internet, I guess if the big stakeholders out there decides to strictly go with Ipv6, others will follow.

On Mar 11, 2019 21:26, "Sanoussi Baahe Dadde" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    In the past, people were using Windows XP but not any more, so the
    same thing can happen with IPv4, I think.

    On Mon, Mar 11, 2019, 18:20 <[email protected]
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        Hi,


        Well, because for many companies, IPv4 works well and they do
        not see the interest of migrating to IPv6. It should also be
        noted that for many other companies, migrating to IPv6
        requires them to deploy new client terminals supporting this
        protocol. What is at the present time a burden too heavy.


        Best

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        I can see that IPv6 is 24ms faster than IPv4 but why most of
        African companies or companies based in Africa still use IPv4?


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        On 3/10/19 3:24 PM, Sanoussi Baahe Dadde wrote:
        > So what is the advantage of using IPv6 in term of speed as
        compare
        > with IPv4?

        I recently listed all of the measurements I could find.
        https://www.retevia.net/fast/

        In Africa on average, IPv6 is 24ms faster than IPv4. That can
        mean a
        significant difference in how long a web page takes to load.
        The APNIC
        data set is pretty small, though, and the performance
        improvement might
        just mean that the "Happy Eyeballs" algorithm only lets IPv6
        work when
        it's faster: https://stats.labs.apnic.net/v6perf/XB
        <https://stats.labs.apnic.net/v6perf/XB>

        I don't know how African mobile providers have deployed IPv6,
        but I
        compared some American and European mobile providers, and
        there's a
        correlation between 464xlat and slower IPv4. My guess is that
        Android
        handsets are a little slow when doing CLAT.
        https://twitter.com/WLeeCoyote/status/1102906933739249664
        <https://twitter.com/WLeeCoyote/status/1102906933739249664>


        Lee



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        > Greetings from Nigeria,
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        > The survey is a good Initiative from AFRINIC, the outcome of
        the
        > survey and
        > the training programme will go a long way to improve Internet
        > development
        > in Africa.
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        > Warm regards,
        >
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        > On 19 Feb 2019 13:00, < [email protected]
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        > >? ? 1. Re: AFRINIC Internet Measurement Awareness Survey (APH)
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        > > From: APH < [email protected]
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        > > Dear Amreesh,
        > >
        > > Our NREN full the survey? of Internet Mesurement. ( NREN
        Malagasy in
        > > Madagascar )
        > >
        > > I think that other participates
        > >
        > > regard,
        > >
        > > --
        > >
        > >
        > > *Pascal* Heriliva ANDRIANISA
        > > Webmaster i RENALA
        > > *R*esearch and *E*ducation *N*etwork for *A*cademic and
        *L*earning
        > > *A*ctivities - http://www.irenala.edu.mg/
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        > >
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        > > Le 2019-02-04 ? 10:17, Nico Schottelius a ?crit?:
        > > > Good morning Amreesh,
        > > >
        > > > greetings from Europe. I was wondering whether you will
        > publish the
        > > > results of the survey afterwards?
        > > >
        > > > We are running an IPv6 first data center in Switzerland
        and we are
        > > > conducting similar surveys on Twitter (@ungleich) at the
        > moment to get a
        > > > better impression on how to grow the IPv6 adoption.
        > > >
        > > > Best regards,
        > > >
        > > > Nico
        > > >
        > > > Amreesh Phokeer < [email protected]
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        writes:
        > > >
        > > >> {Apologies for cross-posting}
        > > >>
        > > >> Dear colleagues,
        > > >>
        > > >> AFRINIC has launched a survey with the aim of assessing
        the
        > current
        > status of Internet measurement in Africa.
        > > >>
        > > >> Your responses will help AFRINIC? understand the available
        > measurement
        > infrastructure on the continent as well as the gap in the
        > infrastructure
        > and the relevant skills that need to be filled. AFRINIC will
        use the
        > responses as guide in building Internet measurement
        programmes to
        > train
        > network operators, regulators, end users, and other
        stakeholders
        > in the
        > forthcoming summits, conferences, and *nog meetings across the
        > continent.
        > > >>
        > > >> We invite you to take the survey? available in both
        English (
        >
        
https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/survey/index/sid/634362/newtest/Y/lang/en
        
<https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/survey/index/sid/634362/newtest/Y/lang/en>
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https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/survey/index/sid/634362/newtest/Y/lang/fr
        
<https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/survey/index/sid/634362/newtest/Y/lang/fr>

        > ).
        > > >>
        > > >> The deadline for filling the survey is 28 February 2018.
        > > >>
        > > >> Please read more on the benefits and the reasons behind
        the
        > need for
        > assessing the current status of Internet measurement in Africa
        > from our
        > blog here.
        >
        
https://www.afrinic.net/blog/421-africa-internet-measurement-awareness-survey
        
<https://www.afrinic.net/blog/421-africa-internet-measurement-awareness-survey>

        > > >>
        > > >> ????????????????.
        > > >>
        > > >> Chers coll?gues,
        > > >>
        > > >> AFRINIC a lanc? un sondage dans le but d'?valuer l'?tat
        > actuel de la
        > m?trologie des r?seaux en Afrique. Vos r?ponses aideront
        AFRINIC ?
        > comprendre l'infrastructure de la m?trologie disponible sur le
        > continent,
        > ainsi que les lacunes dans l?infrastructure et les lacunes au
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        > comp?tences.
        > > >>
        > > >> Les r?sultats de ce sondage servira ? ?laborer des
        programmes de
        > m?trologie des r?seaux destin?s ? former les op?rateurs de
        r?seau, les
        > r?gulateurs, les utilisateurs finaux et d'autres partenaires
        lors des
        > prochains sommets, conf?rences et r?unions ? travers le
        continent.
        > > >>
        > > >> Nous vous invitons ? r?pondre au sondage qui est
        disponible
        > en anglais
        > (
        >
        
https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/survey/index/sid/634362/newtest/Y/lang/en
        
<https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/survey/index/sid/634362/newtest/Y/lang/en>
        )
        > et en fran?ais (https: // survey . afrinic.net
        <http://afrinic.net> < http://afrinic.net >
        > / index.php / survey / index
        > / sid / 634362 / newtest / Y / lang / fr).
        > > >>
        > > >> La date limite pour remplir le questionnaire est 28
        f?vrier 2018.
        > > >>
        > > >> Consultez notre blog ici pour en savoir plus sur les
        > avantages et les
        > raisons de la n?cessit? d'?valuer l'?tat actuel de la
        m?trologie des
        > r?seaux en Afrique.
        >
        
https://www.afrinic.net/blog/421-africa-internet-measurement-awareness-survey
        
<https://www.afrinic.net/blog/421-africa-internet-measurement-awareness-survey>

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