On Wed, 13 Feb 2013, Simon Wilkinson wrote:

On 13 Feb 2013, at 05:32, Benjamin Kaduk <[email protected]> wrote:

Well, we allow out-of-band key management as well as VL_RegisterAddrsAndKey to 
get per-server keys.  So conceivably, those could have GSS identities.

If you are using RegisterAddrsAndKey you need to have a GSS identity on the server. Departmental file servers have to have GSS key material.

Yes. But do we have to suggest a name for the identity of that key material, and do clients wanting to talk to (bosservers on) them need to know that identity?

Anyway, my concern/confusion with this is that the per-server keys are
associated with a server UUID, which I believe is purely a notion of the

Again, only if the RegisterAddrsAndKey method is used. But we want to support it, so we must have a way to cope regardless.

RegisterAddrsAndKey is the only mechanism to declare yourself as a departmental file server.

Is it? I thought we allowed for an out-of-band key management system, which I thought was enough to allow departmental file servers.

But, as you note, machines with only a fileserver will still run a bosserver to manage the fileserver, and may not have a GSS identity avaialble.

I don't think it's overly onerous to require that all machines running a bos server have a GSS identity. In most cases this just means that they need a Kerberos key, which most sites will already have a means of provisioning for their servers.

It does seem quite likely that there will be *some* GSS identity on the machine, and yes, I think we will probably require it. I think what we're debating is whether we need to specify that there is (also) an afs3-bos identity.

I am coming around to thinking that requiring an afs3-bos identity is reasonable, but I am still pondering whether we want the global cell admins to be able to completely control departmental fileservers (e.g., with bos -localauth or similar).

-Ben
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