oo trnyata seorang ahli komputer ya bro wahyunya
kl mo banding2in indonesia ama malaysia emang tahun 70an ama skrg udah berbalik, indonesia kalah jauh
sirkuit sepang nya udah jauh terkenal drpd Sentul nya kita
paling yg membanggakan tu ya musik negara kita aja, bisa jd raja dinegeri sendiri n jd primadona di malaysia sering gw liat di tv malaysia acara lagunya nyanyiin lagu musisi indonesia, beda ama du lu ktika gw SMP lagu Gerimis Mengundang lagi hits banget hehehe

mgkin ampe kita tua indonesia bakal tetap kek gini2 aja.....krn smpai skrg gk ada pergerakan menuju perbaikan yg diharapkan..

gue aja wrote:
wkkwkkw, gw di IT konsultan, bagian develop system. Gw sering kesal aja dulu dengar cerita dari bokap gw kalau berhadapan ama orang2 dari kantor pajak. Mereka sok kuasa, sok paling benar. Mereka menganggap Tanpa mereka negara ini gak bisa berjalan. Walaupun gw yakin juga gak semuanya sprti itu. Tapi kalau sudah sistematis? Yang "lurus2" aja bakalan tersingkir. Kita ini negara ISLAM, tapi gak menerapkan hukum2nya(sorry bukan maksud SARA). Contohlah CINA, bangga dngan komunisnya, tapi? Jangan Harap koruptor hidup dsana! Menteri aja Bisa digantung!!. Coba di indonesia begitu.... Sita harta2 koruptor, bagikan kepada rakyat miskin. trus mereka di pasung aja di tengah2 kota, telanjangin, biar Kapok. Oh iya gw pernah dengar cerita tentang Mahatir Mohammad. Dia pernah kena isu KKN kan? tau gak jawaban dia apa?
" memang saya melakukan KKN(tetapi nepotisme aja) karena apa?
hampir semua proyek pemerintah itu dipegang sama orang2nya mahatir. tujuannya apa?
1. Kepercayaan. Jadi mahatir sangat percaya dngan orang2nya.
2. Kesetiaan kepada negara. jadi orang2 kepercayaannya itu loyal kepada negara. sekali mereka berbuat salah (korupsi merugikan negara) tak ada ampun bagi orang2 trsbut.

Dan terbukti cara tersebut berhasil, malaysia sekarang menjadi salah satu negara terkuat ekonominya di ASIA Selatan. Liat aja PETRONAS begitu mendunia, sampai2 menaranya termasuk menara tertinggi di dunia (bandingkan dngan Indonesia yang dari dulu punya Monas trus) .... padahal Petronas itu "Muridnya" Pertamina....... :D


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*From:* maHen <[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected]
*Sent:* Thu, April 22, 2010 1:51:24 PM
*Subject:* Re: ~ aga ~ pajak bikin emosi...

bro wahyu kerja dmn nih?jgn2 mantan org pemerintahan pula nih ya hehehehe

kl mnurut gw EMBARGo tu gk menakutkan sama sekali, n gk pnting jg bergantung kpd Amrik msh byk negara lain yg bs diajak kerja sama smacam india, cina, rusia jg korea n jepang
knp harus amrik yg diajak kerja sama?
gk ngerti gw jalan pikiran pemimpin disini, egois smua pada mikirin keuntungan dirinya aja, NATO sejati hehehehe



gue aja wrote:
> wkwkkk... yang UMBAR janji mah dah bnyak. tapi yang Umbar Bukti kagak ada.. :)). kenapa kita gak contoh negara2 amerika latin tuh. TOLAK IMF, Nasionalisasi Perusahaan yang vital, spti TAMBANG, Minyak dan listrik. Lihat Argentina, berani menunda bayar hutang(dan tentunya gak mau ngutang lagi). dan duitnya buat bangun negara. Masa Kita tiap tahun habiskan sekian TRILYUN cuma byar Hutang + Bunga.... ??? Sampai kapan? > Menurut gw, kalau freeport, caltex dan sejenisnya diNASIONALISASIKAN, paling2 melanggar aturan, hukum. Gak mungkin Kita diembargo ekonomi. DUNIA butuh Indonesia, terutama untuk kekayaan alam termasuk laut!!! Nasionalisasi itu bukan merebut semua saham, tapi membuat kesepakatan ulang, yang isinya tentunya HARUS manguntungkan INDONESIA.
> BANGKITLAH INDONESIAKU!!!!!
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* maHen <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thu, April 22, 2010 1:14:16 PM
> *Subject:* Re: ~ aga ~ pajak bikin emosi...
>
> hai bro wahyu ^_^
> Amrik emang top lah dlm hal konspirasi kek gini, katanya jg dl Soekarno lengser jg didalangi ama Amrik > Seandainya Soekarno tetap memimpin negara terlepas dr niat jeleknya yg pegn jd presiden seumur hidup paling gk Amrik gk akan seberpowernya gt atas Indonesia sprti sekarang
> Menurut pendapat gw hasil pemilu kmrin jg pasti ada andil dr amrik gt
> salut dah buat teknik mreka mewujudkan niat jeleknya....
>
> pertanyaannya skrg ada gk ya tokoh2 baru yg menjanjikan tuk bs membawa negara ini mjadi lebih baik?
>
> gue aja wrote:
> > Nah, itu yang yang gw heran. Pantesan Kwik kian gie bilang, jika emas di papua itu dikelola 100% orang indonesia dan hasilnya untuk Indonesia juga, maka rakyat Indonesia akan makmur sampai 50 thn. Itu baru dari PAPUA. otomatis gak butuh pinjam2 duit dunk? > > trus kalau APBN 70% dari pajak, berarti semua gaji pegawai negri, polisi, TNI itu kita2 ini yang gaji bukan?. terutama pegawai kntor pajak. Dan yg gw pernah baca, renumerasi mereka itu duitnya boleh NGUTANG sama Bank DUNIA. Gw lebih setuju renumerasi itu diberikan pada guru2 Honorer dan guru2 di Pulau Terpencil!. Jadi bener tuh kata Rizal Ramli, Siapapun yang memimpin, ekonominya pasti "buatan" AS. maka gak heran kalau Dia menjabat Menko EKUIN cuma sbntar, karena kuatnya tekanan dari luar (AS).
> >
> > nama gw Wahyu, bro.
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* maHen <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> > > *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> > *Sent:* Thu, April 22, 2010 11:36:03 AM
> > *Subject:* Re: ~ aga ~ pajak bikin emosi...
> >
> > yg gw heran itu bro kl emang 70% APBN negara kita dr pajak, knp msh juga minjem duit ama negara lain gt ya....bener-bener gk bener ni yg ngurus negara...
> > apa kata dunia......
> >
> > btw nama lu sapa bro?
> >
> > gue aja wrote:
> > > yang gw pernah baca hukumnya haram. Tapi rakyat tetap tidak boleh melawan pemimpin, selama pemimpin itu masih Sholat. Nah, sama tuh sprti artikel yg udah u posting. Pernah juga dulu baca artikel di Khutbah jum'at. Pajak dikenakan kepada rakyat jika memang tidak ada penghasilan dari sumber2 lain. Dan 70% dari APBN itu sumbernya dari PAJAK!. Gilingan kan???!!! Sedangkan negeri kita kaya raya. jadi gak ada alasan tuh buat narik pajak, kecuali untuk perusahaan2 asing yg telah memanfaatkan SDA kita!.
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > *From:* maHen <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>> > > > *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
> > > *Sent:* Wed, April 21, 2010 4:53:25 PM
> > > *Subject:* Re: ~ aga ~ pajak bikin emosi...
> > >
> > > katanya pajak barangnya, krn semua brg di area FTZ ktika kluar dari daerah FTZ dikenai pajak gt
> > > gk ngerti jg gw....dlm islam pajak kek ginian gmn ya hukumnya...
> > >
> > > gue aja wrote:
> > > > pajak apaan tuh bro?
> > > >
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> > > > *Sent:* Mon, April 19, 2010 11:11:48 AM
> > > > *Subject:* ~ aga ~ pajak bikin emosi...
> > > >
> > > > kmbali gw sebel sm perpajakan
> > > > kmrin gw ngirim hp ke jawa barat dikenai pajak 17.5% dr harga barang.....
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