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Kalo ada harus nya bisa di jelasin ke karyawan. > Sent from my BlackBerry® > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT > > -----Original Message----- > From: ryesya rasady <[email protected]> > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 14:26:31 > To: <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: ~ aga ~ Bonus... > > kalo di tempat kerja ku, pembagian bonus berdasarkan > masa kerja dan kecakapan dalam pekerjaan, jadi kalau org yang biasa2 > aja, gak bakal dapet.. > > Pada tanggal 06/07/12, Najib <[email protected]> menulis: > > Ini namannya political Labour fare... > > > > Artinya...dalam bahasa simpelnya gini "perusahaan untung,kenapa gak bagi > ke > > karyawan", dan yang kedua "lo mau kasih bonus atau we out together" > selesai > > toh...win2 solution > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On > > Behalf Of Ear.One > > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 2:05 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ Bonus... > > > > Bonus selama tidak diatur dalam buku peraturan perusahaan, maka tidak ada > > yg > > bisa menuntuy, mau sampai ke pengadilan pun perusahaan pasti menang... > > > > Cuma yg harus dipertimbangkan adalah kalau bonus ada dan diberikan kepada > > orang2 tertentu, nah ini yg akan dijadikan celah oleh orang depnaker > untuk > > "memeriksa"... dasarnya apa orang ttt tsb terima bonus, yg lain tidak... > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On > > Behalf Of ryesya rasady > > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 1:59 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: ~ aga ~ Bonus... > > > > um Asean, Ear One ama Najib... > > > > hatur nuhun pisan respon dan penjelasana...:) > > > > sebetulnya UU no 13 tahun 2003 nya udah ada, tapi khawatir ada yang > > terbaru / revisi atau mungkin ada informasi terbaru mengenai bonus > > ini..secara kenapa tiba2 aja mereka jadi berani menuntut... > > > > ya mudah2an aja, tidak terjadi hal2 yang negatif, khawatir juga imbasnya > > ke karyawan lama, jadi ikut2an gak di beri bonus, dengan dalih agar > > adil dan merata :) > > > > salam, > > risa > > > > > > > > Pada tanggal 06/07/12, Anthonius Asean <[email protected]> > > menulis: > >> Ini ada contoh kasus yang sama non,,, > >> > >> > >> > >> http://id.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100819225626AAH6COz > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Bonus dari perusahaan itu sebenarnya hak karyawan ataukah semata-mata > >> kebaikan boss ya? > >> Kalau hak karyawan, ada yang tahukah peraturan hitam di atas putihnya? > >> Kalau semata-mata kebaikan boss, yah pasrah deh > >> Jawaban Terbaik - Dipilih oleh Penanya > >> Ini tergantung dari perjanjian kerja bos Yuhuuu dan perusahaan. Jika > >> dalam > >> dokumen(hitam putih) "perjanjian kerja bersama" telah dicantumkan adanya > >> bonus maka hal itu akan menjadi hak karyawan dan kewajiban perusahaan. > > Jika > >> tidak ada dalam dokumen "perjanjian kerja bersama", berarti sepenuhnya > >> kebaikan bos. PKB ini umumnya dan seharusnya kompromi antara karyawan > dan > >> pemberi kerja. > >> > >> Selain dalam PKB, bisa juga bonus dalam bentuk insentif hasil kerja. > > Semisal > >> pabrik tahun ini availability(waktu pabrik beroperasi) 90%. Lalu > terdapat > >> kebijakan perusahaan bahwa jika availability dapat dinaikkan menjadi 95 > >> %, > >> maka departemen tertentu akan mendapat bonus insentif tertentu. > >> Variasinya > >> akan tergantung perusahaan bos Yuhuuu bekerja. > >> materi referensi: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On > >> Behalf Of ryesya rasady > >> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 1:38 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: ~ aga ~ Bonus... > >> > >> > >> > >> setau ku juga gitu yah.. > >> > >> > >> > >> tapi entah di kompori pihak darimana, tiba2 aja karyawan yang biasa gak > >> dapet, > >> > >> nuntut minta bonus juga dengan dalih apa dasarnya perusahaan hanya > >> > >> memberikan bonus hanya ke orang2 tertentu saja.. dan kalu gak di kasih > >> > >> mau demo :( , mereka menuntut persamaan hak, karena mereka turut andil > >> > >> di perusahaan. > >> > >> > >> > >> makanya minta basic UU nya mengenai ketenagakerjaan, supaya mereka tau > >> > >> dan paham... > >> > >> > >> > >> trus hadapi orang2 manfaturing seperti itu juga agak sulit karena > >> kebanyakan > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Pada tanggal 06/07/12, Ear.One <[email protected]> menulis: > >> > >>> Bener banget tuh... dan biasanya diatur dalam buku peraturan perusahaan > >> > >>> masing2... > >> > >>> Namanya juga bonus alias pemberian gratis, masa di UU kan :) > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >> > >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > >>> On > >> > >>> Behalf Of Anthonius Asean > >> > >>> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 1:25 PM > >> > >>> To: [email protected] > >> > >>> Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ Bonus... > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Kalau setau gw siy...yg namanya Bonus tuh kebijakan perusahaan aja > Sa... > >> > >>> Gak wajib... :-) > >> > >>> > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >> > >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > >>> On > >> > >>> Behalf Of ryesya rasady > >> > >>> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 1:22 PM > >> > >>> To: aga-madjid > >> > >>> Subject: ~ aga ~ Bonus... > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Siang Agaers, > >> > >>> > >> > >>> mau tanya, untuk perusahaan manufacturing. ada gak ya peraturan yang > >> > >>> mengharuskan suatu perusahaan memberikan bonus ( uang di akhir taun ) > >> > >>> untuk semua karyawannya ? 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