Hi Rob, thanks for the compliment :)

I'm sorry, I don't currently engage in abstract reasoning about what
constitutes AI. I use that time to actually make AI in actual code.

I use the "operating system approach" now because an OS is an excellent
place for an AI. Just the OS needs to be controllable enough from the AI
process. I now have that in my Java-based system.

I really should put a chat bot in there next :)

BTW do you have some other contact? Your mail address is hidden (how's that
even work? :)).

Many greetings,
Stefan

On 8 June 2018 at 17:38, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Stefan. Awesome job!
>
> You remind me of the movie: "Along came Polly".
>
> Respect to you for sticking to it for decades. My journey has thus far
> lasted 22 years.
>
> I can see how some of your existing image-reading code could be applied to
> "reading" standardized, system models. Such models are (currently) manually
> generated via the application of my tacit-knowledge engineering method. It
> could be automated. The models all follow the same convention, and speak
> the same,  BAA (Blocks And Arrows) "language". This has significant, future
> relevance for mainstreaming symbol-driven, UI systems (aka digital,
> personal assistants).
>
> Within my ontology, system models exist irrespective of content. In other
> words, they are not data driven, but structured according to
> context-relative, policy decisions. If your cat could understand the
> meaning of the image (model) it was looking at, it could reverse-engineer
> the policy of the image and automatically translate that into processes,
> and also assign default functionality to those processes. Such
> functionality could easily be pruned to optimum level via a self-recursive
> algorithm.
>
> All these steps could be completed without getting lost in translation
> (just a more-fun way to say, with integrity). Such computational functional
> would set the baseline for the more-interesting stuff leading towards an
> AGI platform.
>
> **In that manner, a seamless link may be established between any
> personalized system (human-thinking based) and generic functionality (in
> digital form). - the cat would eventually choose what state it wants to be
> in, even adopting multiple states, and new ones invented to degrees, in
> parallel. I think, achieving this level of logic sophistication would be
> critical to progress towards an AGI platform.
>
> If forward chaining  becomes possible, then so does backward chaining.
>
> Backward chaining should in theory yield standardized, system models from
> any digital source being read by the cat. If that value chain could be set
> up computationally, it would mean an AI-enabled mechanism was established
> for last-mile knowledge engineering.
>
> Comments?
>
> Rob
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Stefan Reich via AGI <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Friday, 08 June 2018 3:23 PM
> *To:* AGI
> *Subject:* Re: [agi] Anyone interested in sharing your projects / data
> models
>
> Hi Duncan!
>
> I am currently making a Java-based AI-enabled operating system. It runs as
> a guest in any normal OS. I am actually switching to it as my main OS right
> now.
>
> I have stuff like a Chrome-compatible browser in it, so it is actually a
> replacement for a normal OS.
>
> The AI part will mean that more and more guesses are made by the system as
> you use it, and it will automate things automatically (<< automation
> squared!).
>
> I'm totally looking for testers & coders. It's starting now.
>
> Try at: http://BotCompany.de
>
> Oh, and programming it is pretty easy. Many modules are like one screen of
> code. List of module sources.
> <http://tinybrain.de:8080/tb/search.php?q=type%3A57>
>
> //
>
> I also looked at your GitHub pages. Not sure how much I understand yet
> though... :o)
>
> I am using Java instead of Python because it has proper GUI & deployment
> to end users is actually feasible compared to Python. And for many other
> reasons...
>
> Cheers
> Stefan
>
> On 8 June 2018 at 13:45, Duncan Murray <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> The people in this group have a wide variety of skills and I've seen some
> interesting, and confusing approaches. I am a programmer with an interest
> in Maths and AI but there are many things posted here that I don't fully
> understand.
>
> A lot of people are keeping things closed to others, which is fine - but
> if anyone is interested in sharing your work so far, this group would be a
> great place to get some initial feedback. Sure it may not all be positive,
> but overall we and you may learn something new or take your ideas in a
> different direction.
>
> I'll start - first, to prove there are no wrong answers I've attached my
> first attempt to work out what an intelligent system might look like. It
> looks bit naive, but maybe there is something in there might help someone
> else?
>
> Since then, I started working on a framework to try and manage AI
> processes, also with limited success. https://github.com/ac
> utesoftware/AIKIF
>
> So, please - send us links to your projects!
>
> Cheers,
>   Duncan
>
>
>
>
> --
> Stefan Reich
> BotCompany.de
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