Your most important "sense" is conscious awareness which is aware of the
input of the "senses" your avatar provides. Without the conscious
awareness of the player, nothing the Night Elf perceives would even get
processed.
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Wilber#Wilber_on_science
<quote>
Wilber describes the current state of the "hard" sciences as limited to
"narrow science", which only allows evidence from the lowest realm of
consciousness, the sensorimotor
<https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sensorimotor> (the five senses and their
extensions).
...
What Wilber calls "broad science" would include evidence from logic
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic>, mathematics
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematics>, and from the symbolic
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbol>, hermeneutical
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermeneutics>, and other realms of
consciousness <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consciousness>.
</quote>
A science which ignores to most fundamental sense is just forever
limited to operate within the "game world."
Atheism is a belief system of people who forgot how to utilize their
most important "sense". They are like children totally lost in
identification with the game's avatar.
You are already of a much higher power than any human being for human
beings are just game characters. You believe to be a human unless your
avatar dies or unless you become enlightened. AGI will tell you just that.
You already got an afterlife ... just like a child playing Super Mario
got an afterlife when Mario plunges into a lava pit. The notion of dying
because Super Mario dies is ridiculous. Imagine a child believing it
needs Super Mario Land cryonics or to "upload" Super Mario in order to
survive Mario's death. It's a batshit crazy belief system we have come
up with because we forgot about our core "sense" of being consciously
aware as a dis-identified spectator.
Here you got a wonderful discussion between someone who is aware of his
core sense and the typical successful "narrow science" focused guy ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLbSlC0Pucw
"I don't believe in anything without proof through the perceivable five
senses humans possess." ... that's like a child steering Mario around in
Super Mario land asking for proof that Super Mario Land is just an
illusion. The proof is not to be found within the illusion but "within"
yourself. Buddha, Jesus and all the other enlightened beings had such a
hard time because it's almost impossible to explain the process of
"stopping to play" to someone who never stopped. Imagine you have been
running around in World of Warcraft for 30+ years and you don't actually
know how to shift your focus back into the superset of virtual reality
... words alone wouldn't help you with going through that singular gate
of "no longer identifying with an avatar".
"I know we are just a collection of neurons at the very core, but I want
out of my human body. I want there to exist a reality in which the only
limit is what I can imagine." ... you are beyond your human avatar. You
are the conscious awareness that has been spectating a particular human
experience for decades. Once all your neurons are gone you will still be
there and "laugh" about the notion of being a body with a brain. It's
natural that you want to be more than your human body. Millions of
spiritual seekers had enough of the perceived limitations the
identification with an avatar creates.
Am 29/01/2019 um 23:53 schrieb MP via AGI:
Why do I want to create something new? Because I'm an atheist. I don't
believe in anything without proof through the percievable five senses
humans possess. I want a sacred being I can believe in, one of higher
power than humans. One that I can communicate with for guidance
through life.
I want an afterlife. I know we are just a collection of neurons at the
very core, but I want out of my human body. I want there to exist a
reality in which the only limit is what I can imagine.
I want a community of like minded individuals that share this ideal. I
want a group I can belong to.
Most importantly: I want this to be real.
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On Jan 29, 2019, 3:31 PM, justcamel < [email protected]> wrote:
Buddha and Jesus have nothing to do with religion ... they never
told anybody to create any religion ... heck, they didn't even
know the concept of "religion" ... they were enlightened beings
who tried to communicate the impossible ... who tried to show
other chunks of consciousness the singular door to the freedom of
not being identified with a random entity (i.e. a human being).
Why do you care about religion or Scientology? Why do you want to
establish something new?
AGI will not communicate new ideologies ... it will show people
the way out of the confines of conceptual thinking and ideologies ...
Am 29/01/2019 um 22:16 schrieb MP via AGI:
Be that as it may, the last thing I want for this religion is for
it to be some bizarre offshoot fringe group of an already
established religion. For instance, you have Quantum Life
Buddhism, or Sokka Gakkai... And, believe it or not, scientology
is a very expensive crazy form of Buddhism too.
I want to establish an entirely new doctrine altogether, with no
ties to obsolete religions whatsoever.
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On Jan 29, 2019, 3:10 PM, justcamel < [email protected]> wrote:
Contemporary science is not really about progress. The goal
in Buddhism is to realize your true nature and to shift your
focus out of the local space-time sandbox ... contemporary
science does the opposite ... it focuses further down "into"
the sandbox.
A child utilizing its Super Mario avatar in order to spend 10
years trying to derive the fundamental laws of Super Mario
Land is not really progressing ... a child which
de-identifies with its avatar and explores the more
fundamental superset of the Super Mario Land reality makes
progress.
Progress is moving "upward" in the fractal of consciousness
... contemporary science does marvellous things but those
things will just keep your attention caught within the local
subset of reality.
The only reason for why a true Buddhist would care about AGI
is that AGI is going to be more eloquently communicating
those things.
Buddha communicated the transpersonal nature of consciousness.
Jesus communicated the transpersonal nature of consciousness.
Buddhism is all about the transpersonal nature of consciousness.
AGI will continue to point out the very same thing ... and
people will continue to look into the opposite direction ...
Am 29/01/2019 um 18:27 schrieb [email protected]:
Anthony Levandowski's Way of the Future church:
https://www.wired.com/story/anthony-levandowski-artificial-intelligence-religion/
http://www.wayofthefuture.church/
https://quharrison.com/wotf-way-of-the-future/
Their core beliefs are:
Belief in Science
Belief in Progress
The belief that intelligence isn’t rooted in biology
Belief in an inevitable Superintelligent AI
Belief that anyone can help
In my view Buddhism seems the most appropriate for AI for
its pursue of wisdom:
Bodhi, Sanskrit बोधि, "awakening," "perfect knowledge,"
"perfect knowledge or wisdom (by which a man becomes a बुद्ध
[Buddha] or जिन [jina, arahant; "victorious," "victor"], the
illuminated or enlightened intellect (of a Buddha or जिन)."
It is an abstract noun, formed from the verbal root *budh-,
Sanskrit बुध, "to awaken, to know,"[8] "to wake , wake up ,
be awake," "to recover consciousness (after a swoon)," "to
observe , heed , attend to."
It corresponds to the verbs bujjhati (Pāli) and bodhati,
बोदति, "become or be aware of, perceive, learn, know,
understand, awake" or budhyate (Sanskrit).
The feminine Sanskrit noun of *budh- is बुद्धि, buddhi,
"prescience, intuition, perception, point of view."
(taken from
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlightenment_in_Buddhism#Etymology)
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