The politics of it, reading between the lines of Musk's stated objectives in founding the organization, seem to be that of cartel-style technological gate-keeping, not shying away from the toolkit of crony capitalism and regulatory capture to steer R&D in directions favorable to the involved corporate entities.
On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 4:36 PM Rob Freeman <chaotic.langu...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't know Ben. It feels more sinister to me. It feels like virtue > signalling. > > Very bad to see this entering hard science. > > I see the idea behind it, probably unconscious and so more dangerous, that > engineers and engineering are bad, and the world must be protected from > them. > > If every time you state an idea you must spend half and hour evaluating > the ethical consequences of it, in no time science will be completely > captive to politics. > > > On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 1:05 PM Ben Goertzel <b...@goertzel.org> wrote: > >> Hmmm... >> >> About this "OpenAI keeping their language model secret" thing... >> >> I mean -- clearly, keeping their language model secret is a pure PR >> stunt... Their >> algorithm is described in an online paper... and their model was >> trained on Reddit text ... so anyone else with a bunch of $$ (for >> machine-time and data-preprocessing hacking) can download Reddit >> (complete Reddit archives are available as a torrent) and train a >> language model similar or better >> than OpenAI's ... >> >> That said, their language model is a moderate improvement on the BERT >> model released by Google last year. This is good AI work. There is >> no understanding of semantics and no grounding of symbols in >> experience/world here, but still, it's pretty f**king cool to see what >> an awesome job of text generation can be done by these pure >> surface-level-pattern-recognition methods.... >> >> Honestly a lot of folks in the deep-NN/NLP space (including our own >> SingularityNET St. Petersburg team) have been talking about applying >> BERT-ish attention networks (with more comprehensive network >> architectures) in similar ways... but there are always so many >> different things to work on, and OpenAI should be congratulated for >> making these particular architecture tweaks and demonstrating them >> first... but not for the PR stunt of keeping their model secret... >> >> Although perhaps they should be congratulated for revealing so clearly >> the limitations of the "open-ness" in their name "Open AI." I mean, >> we all know there are some cases where keeping something secret may be >> the most ethical choice ... but the fact that they're willing to take >> this step simply for a short-term one-news-cycle PR boost, indicates >> that open-ness may not be such an important value to them after all... >> >> -- >> Ben Goertzel, PhD >> http://goertzel.org >> >> "Listen: This world is the lunatic's sphere, / Don't always agree >> it's real. / Even with my feet upon it / And the postman knowing my >> door / My address is somewhere else." -- Hafiz > *Artificial General Intelligence List <https://agi.topicbox.com/latest>* > / AGI / see discussions <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + > participants <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + delivery > options <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> Permalink > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T581199cf280badd7-M5cfff96ad8f3f6ee58e68a31> > ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T581199cf280badd7-Mf8042f02c1e05cae5e71b4bb Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
