Write input text - remove spaces in the input text - compress - send -
decompress - AI - output text including spaces.



On 19.07.2019 01:23, Matt Mahoney wrote:
I agree we need less philosophy and speculation on which approaches to
AGI should work, and more experiments to back up untested ideas.
Obviously I haven't solved AGI, but you can find my work, mostly in
data compression, at http://mattmahoney.net/dc/

My main result that is relevant to AGI is the large text benchmark.
Compressing text is equivalent to predicting text, which is equivalent
to passing the Turing test. In my tests of thousands of versions of
200 programs, the best results are obtained by programs that model the
lexical, semantic, and grammatical categories of language using neural
networks with fixed low level features and trainable higher level
features using algorithms I implemented in the PAQ series of compressors.

Across all algorithms, prediction accuracy (measured by compression),
and thus intelligence, increases with the log of CPU speed and log of
memory. (I suspect log of software complexity too but the trend is not
clear). This suggests the reason for the pattern of AI and AGI
failures. Initial promising results tend to lead to underestimating
the difficulty of the problem. Most people, when asked, cannot say how
much their design will cost in lines of code or operations per second
or dollars, so they simply guess with no justification something they
can afford.

You will also find links to my papers and open source software. You
might find my paper on the cost of AI interesting, if not controversial.



On Wed, Jul 17, 2019, 12:36 AM Basile Starynkevitch
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    To the AGI list

    On 7/16/19 11:11 PM, WriterOfMinds wrote:
    I don't have an elitist preference for formal academic work vs.
    hobbyist work (mine is definitely the latter), but I still have
    to agree that there is a lot of noise in the mailing list.

    Mine is semi hobbyist work e.g. because the retirement-hobby
    successor of my current at-office-work Bismon
    <http://github.com/bstarynk/bismon/> system (which /apparently/ is
    not related at all to AGI, but in my mind is on purpose designed
    to become /later/ a possible foundational work for a future AGI
    embryonic system similar in spirit to CAIA
    
<http://bootstrappingartificialintelligence.fr/WordPress3/2014/04/caia-my-colleague/>)
    could, in five years, be presented here as a tiny basis for AGI.
    But*hobbyist work on AGI requires some experimental work which can
    be looked by peers* -other people with AGI interests- and IMNSHO
    such experiment means open source or free software
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software> software
    [sub-]systems related to AGI.

    I see few of such academic free software software sub-systems
    (somehow indirectly related to AGI) even mentioned on this mailing
    list.

    I would appreciate more sharing and discussion of results, less
    pointless speculation and arguing about whose theory is best.
    None of us really know how to build AGI, so it ends up being the
    blind trying to lead the blind.

    I fully agree with that. I don't claim to know how to build AGI. I
    do have some beliefs (mostly shared with J.Pitrat's ones
    <http://bootstrappingartificialintelligence.fr/WordPress3/>), see
    below (where I just repeat what I wrote before)


    In my initial email asking about scholar references in Russian, I
    wrote not only

    However, I am (aged 60 and....) more and more interested in
    reading Russian academic papers -in particular experimental ones-
    on the following topics (see Pitrat's blog
    <http://bootstrappingartificialintelligence.fr/WordPress3/>):

      * symbolic AGI
      * common sense reasoning
      * metaknowledge based AI systems
      * reflective and introspective AI systems.

    but also, (initially in smaller fonts)

     I am interested by experimental free software AGI systems, not
    by "pseudo-theoretical bullshit" or "I need a million US$ to make
    AGI" kind of messages. I would like a reliable automatic free
    software which filters such useless and annoying messages. *I
    strongly believe that AGI is as difficult to achieve as e.g. a
    human expedition to Mars, or a controlled nuclear fusion reactor
    (à la ITER).*


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    opinions are mine only - les opinions sont seulement miennes
    Bourg La Reine, France;<[email protected]> 
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