When the turk squares the apple and inference does no better there's no crop, only crap...
With that... a mixed data db, even when the associations are more than binary, might require a certain kind of ANN, modeled so that it resembles a 'random forest' (growing the tree at discrete times - with or without the Sleep States) and also a reactor when propagating the inference particles. It takes a large correspondence table before building or packing the model. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_forest On 20.08.2019 21:17, Stefan Reich via AGI wrote:
lol... "crap ANNs". You convinced me there... On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 00:04, Secretary of Trades <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: :) It's annotation (a text entry). From Amazon's "mechanical turk". A hilarious way of referring the current norm of primitive and supervised learning molded on crap ANNs. On 20.08.2019 00:11, Stefan Reich via AGI wrote: > I find your explanation hard to follow. What is "turking"? Is this > another one of those "nothing must be manual because we are making AI" > argument? Those are really useless. > > On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 22:36, Secretary of Trades > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: > > Hearing, but not for control. For segment cuts to be associated with > image cuts (e.g. 'red numbers'). > > Also, the red numbers should not be sourced by any kind of turking > (such > as the color channel threshold kind of is). Instead a hard or soft > focusing should source the image portion of interest. > > As one would bring an apple in front of a child's eyes and say "Apple" > or "An apple" ... > > Such a set-up would be unsupervised enough (no text in the > database and > no other kind of turking/ annotation), but instead an association > between an image db (where non-OCRed text can be included) and a sound > cuts db (where spoken text could also be included). The learning model > can be complex enough so that a spoken phrase that describes the apple > fruit to be linked (or associated) not to an image but to only a tiny > segment of the same spoken phrase (the 'apple' noun, when isolated). > > So, instead of sourcing for control, the hearing module should > source to > a smart association algorithm that runs continuously (so that > associations can be made at discrete times). > > > On 19.08.2019 15:37, Stefan Reich via AGI wrote: > > You mean voice control? Yeah I have code for that. > > > > On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 05:54, Secretary of Trades > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>> wrote: > > > > It sees. It must also hear. > > > > > > On 19.08.2019 01:31, Stefan Reich via AGI wrote: > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6eJSCGEkSE > > > > > > -- > > > Stefan Reich > > > BotCompany.de // Java-based operating systems > > > *Artificial General Intelligence List > > > <https://agi.topicbox.com/latest>* / AGI / see discussions > > > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + participants > > > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + delivery > options > > > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> Permalink <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T8f7f05f86e62415a-M1e8cdc19650b4a48d80aaa6c> > > > > > > -- > > Stefan Reich > > BotCompany.de // Java-based operating systems > > *Artificial General Intelligence List > > <https://agi.topicbox.com/latest>* / AGI / see discussions > > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + participants > > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + delivery options > > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> Permalink > > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T8f7f05f86e62415a-M5cdb99ac21573fb433315836> > > -- > Stefan Reich > BotCompany.de // Java-based operating systems > *Artificial General Intelligence List > <https://agi.topicbox.com/latest>* / AGI / see discussions > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + participants > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + delivery options > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> Permalink > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T8f7f05f86e62415a-Ma3202fbd050a786e8256b1c6> -- Stefan Reich BotCompany.de // Java-based operating systems *Artificial General Intelligence List <https://agi.topicbox.com/latest>* / AGI / see discussions <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + participants <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + delivery options <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> Permalink <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T8f7f05f86e62415a-M81891c7bd381ee1a2effcac9>
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