Has anyone pulled a Shane Legg on "consciousness"? https://arxiv.org/abs/0706.3639
On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 6:06 PM Matt Mahoney <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 6, 2019, 4:53 AM John Rose <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Question: Why don't the compression experts call near-lossless and >> perceptual-lossless lossy? >> Answer: Because you don't know. They could be either though admittedly >> high probability lossy. >> > > No. It's marketing. > > How do you know something is conscious? It could be perceptually conscious >> but not really conscious. >> > > You "know" you are conscious because thinking feels like something. You > want to keep on thinking by not dying. This behavior increases your > expected number of offspring. > > If something is like you, then you assume it is conscious too. We have to > assume because there is no objective test. Other humans are like you, > therefore conscious. Animals are sort of like you, so less conscious. > Robots are even less like you, so not conscious. > > So let's loop this around and call perceptual-lossless p-lossless. Then I >> would say a p-zombie is p-lossless. >> > > The "p" in "p-zombie" means "philosophical". It is philosophical because > it exposes the obvious inconsistency in your belief that you are conscious. > First we define consciousness as the difference between a human and a > zombie. Then we define a zombie as being behaviorally identical to a human. > The logical conclusion is that there is no test, no measurement, no > objective evidence, and thus no rational reason to believe that you are > conscious. The fact that you believe otherwise proves that brains have > irrational beliefs about consciousness. > > Anyone doing serious research in AGI knows this. They know that > consciousness is irrelevant to intelligence. The only thing you have to > model is the emotions that cause the belief in it. > > *Artificial General Intelligence List <https://agi.topicbox.com/latest>* > / AGI / see discussions <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + > participants <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + delivery > options <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> Permalink > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T252d8aea50d6d8f9-M99313117555910f2a70a1e7a> > ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T252d8aea50d6d8f9-M77948c5056449af5fbb4abd3 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
