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On 4. Dec 2019, at 22:36, Eugene Surowitz via AGI <[email protected]> wrote:

> Matt's comment on not being able to open the PDFs
> reminded me to try again after Firefox detected invalid credentials
> associated with viewing things.  Problem still existed yesterday.
> 
> Cheers, Gene
> 
> On 12/03/2019 05:19 PM, Pei Wang wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 2:42 PM Matt Mahoney <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>        We are doing vision (Perception from an AGI Perspective
>        <http://www.cis.temple.edu/~pwang/Publication/perception.pdf>), 
> language
>        (Natural Language Processing by Reasoning and Learning
>        
> <https://github.com/PhillyAGITeam/Website/blob/master/Papers/PAGI-TR-1.pdf>), 
>  knowledge
>        base (ConceptNet and WordNet connections), and robotics. For 
> application,
>        seeA <https://cis.temple.edu/tagit/events/papers/Hammer.pdf>reasoning 
> based
>        <https://cis.temple.edu/tagit/events/papers/Hammer.pdf>model for 
> anomaly
>        detection in the Smart City domain
>        <https://cis.temple.edu/tagit/events/papers/Hammer.pdf>andBeyond ML/DL:
>        Learning by Reasoning for Smarter Cities and Safer Schools.
>        <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7EtRJatVmg>
> 
>    I wasn't able to open the first 3 PDF files but the video was very 
> interesting.
>    Especially setting up a billion surveillance cameras to detect jaywalking. 
> :-/
>    What roles do OpenCog and OpenNars play in this vision system?
> 
> In the current version, OpenNARS does inference on the data preprocessed 
> using DL
> tools. The paper explains more.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Pei
> 
>        Of course there are still many problems to be resolved, though I don't 
> think
>        low-level cognition is harder than high-level cognition, nor that the 
> latter
>        "never was the real problem".
> 
>        Regards,
> 
>        Pei
> 
>        On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 11:17 AM Matt Mahoney <[email protected]
>        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>            On Mon, Dec 2, 2019, 1:19 PM Eugene Surowitz via AGI
>            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>                You might take a look at Pei Wang's NARS system;
>                an 'Open NARS' system is available.
> 
>            Pei Wang was on this list when it was first founded but left years 
> ago.
>            NARS (non axiomatic reasoning system) again has the same hardware
>            limitations of other probabilistic reasoning systems. It lacks 
> vision,
>            language, speech, and robotics. It also never had a knowledge base 
> or any
>            useful applications.
> 
>            Again, not trying to be critical because it's a really hard 
> problem.
>            Modeling high level cognitive processing never was the real 
> problem. It's
>            the petaflops of low level processing tuned by millions of years of
>            evolution.
> 
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