I'm still not on the boat d00dz? Hell, Oliver Wendell Holmes called computers the "triumph of the ciphering hand organ" and he was completely right. This isn't even AI, it's rubbing sticks together and flipping switches. Richard Feynman would be looking at this stuff and going.. "Yer MORONZ, never work, you're not even WRONG!"
Am I right or just missing the point? Anybody want to chime in? Machines do not have MINDS. That is the biggest, dumbest metaphor out there in the history of computer science. A chip is not a brain! Human brain wetware is NOT computable. And the person who proves me wrong would be a Nobellist except they probably haven't been BORN yet! I like the idea of a machine learning by doing, but no one has bothered to address my goal path opportunity topology paradox problem or whether a good test game scenario even exists that will say, oh yeah, there is the special sauce in there that equals "sentience." I've read Ben Goertzels more impenetrable stuff in University libraries but why not start with desire? I exist, I need, I move toward the environment to fill the need, food, poop, air, water. Ok. Oh look.. a different thing who smells nice. maybe he/she.it sees me too? Oh yah. Beauty, truth, synergy, union.. COSMOS! I'm seriously just talking to myself at this point aren't I? A bot playing counterstrike effectively is potentially more interesting than this AGI gar-BAGE.. or lets look at F.E.A.R. SImple software agents that know, "go get the one guy, but don't get shot and don't decrement the life counter to 0?" HEll0? [-) On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 1:44 PM <immortal.discover...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thursday, June 16, 2022, at 10:39 AM, Greg Staskowski wrote: > > Ok.. So what are the rulesetz for a "humble machine" > > Don't hurt creators? > Don't run bad code? > Follow all your rules? > > I'm genuinely curious > > First, to make AGI, one may look to the SOTA AIs like I posted here > > https://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/114869-2022-may-20-here-is-where-we-are-with-agi-now/ > > That Blender one by Facebook has goal/ persona forcing it to say certain > domain ex. carssss i like cars i car hobbyist and i keep talking about > cars........and it makes it sound very professional and focused BTW. > > Well, you do just set it the ones you want....ex. human images of nude > bodies, food, immortality, and this way it has it on its mind 24/7, as its > goal/ thing it wants to about. > > It does learn much these from a large amount of internet data, actually. > But you may be better off putting some hard stalled ones in yourself. Yes, > it could find a bad way to get those goals, but so far large AI models seem > well grammared and intelligent, even with the biases/misunderstanding part. > *Artificial General Intelligence List <https://agi.topicbox.com/latest>* > / AGI / see discussions <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + > participants <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + > delivery options <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> > Permalink > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Td8db5de3bbc0c6ae-M43c139043a74f98393044bcc> > ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Td8db5de3bbc0c6ae-M7a4118396a2fc02b846418b0 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
