man, sorry, a bit of a conflation of recent events on my part... not my best effort
On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 2:25 PM James Bowery <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 3:27 PM Mike Archbold <[email protected]> wrote: > >> A lot of these people that are suddenly piling on the bandwagon to AGI -- >> if they say it doesn't take a lot of compute, not going to use LLMs, where >> were they the last 20+ years? >> > > Wow.... how many layers must I slice through here? > > 1) Who is "suddenly piling onto AGI" saying it doesn't take "a lot" of > compute? > 2) "A lot of compute" must be compared to the current "warehouses" of > compute Carmack says he doesn't think is necessary. Indeed, he thinks you > have to be wealthy to "take a stab at" the current opportunity but that > *exponential* increase in hardware cost effectiveness will eventually > bring the cost down to grad student level at which point the opportunity > will be gone for the wealthy. > 3) Are you perhaps thinking of Hutter's strict limit on compute for his > prize as though he is someone who is "suddenly piling on the bandwagon to > AGI"? All of a sudden like over 20 years ago? And is Hutter even making > that claim? No. He's simply saying that "The Hardware Lottery" may be > misdirecting *research* in machine learning. He's never stated that > Matt's Large Text Compression Benchmark, which is unconstrained in > "compute" is a bad direction in *development* of a language model -- > however profligate it may be in compute. > 4) Where was Carmack for the last 20+ years? Making money so he is in a > position to make this comment: > “I’m honestly surprised that there aren’t more people … I mean there are > hundreds of people, like me, that were technical people that, you know, > that succeeded, sold companies that have the resources to go and apply > this, and I’m kind of surprised that there aren’t more of them taking small > stabs at it… the expected value of that if you have no fear of ruin is > quite significant.” > *Artificial General Intelligence List <https://agi.topicbox.com/latest>* > / AGI / see discussions <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + > participants <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + > delivery options <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> > Permalink > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Td500c6985165fa72-Mbb902ed3b3a9454a6c6dda8c> > ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Td500c6985165fa72-Mfb8f1ef1b2283ba50d1bd93f Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
