Mostly agreed, but it depends on your definition of NN. NN is equivalent to mutation (supposed to be). If we applied it in that sense, then NN could support other schemas of mutation, not diminish in functional value. Ultimately, I think we're heading towards a biochemical model for AGI, even if it is a synthetic one.
Synthetic means, not naturally made. It doesn't mean that a synthetic machine cannot function as a fully-recursive machine, which demonstrates of its own intuit an ability to perform conscious decisions of the highest order. The concern with AGI has often been in the region of autonomous decision making. Who would predict exactly which moral, or strategic-tactical-operational, or "necessary" decision a powerful, autonomous machine could come to. Which tribe would it conclude it belonged to and where would it position its sense of fealty? Would it be as fickle as humans on belonging and issues of loyalty to greater society? Altruism, would it get it? Would it develop a good and bad inclination, and structure society to favor either one of those "instincts" it may deem most logically indicated? Mostly, would it be inclined towards "criminal" behavior, or even "terrorism" by any name? And if it decided to turn to rage in a relationship, would it feel justified in overpowering a weaker sex? In that sense, success! We would have duplicated the complications of humanity! ________________________________ From: John Rose <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, 17 May 2024 13:48 To: AGI <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [agi] Can symbolic approach entirely replace NN approach? On Thursday, May 16, 2024, at 11:26 AM, ivan.moony wrote: What should symbolic approach include to entirely replace neural networks approach in creating true AI? Symbology will compress NN monstrosities… right? Or should say increasing efficiency via emerging symbolic activity for complexity reduction. Then less NN will be required since the “intelligence” was will have been formed. But still need sensory… There is much room for innovation in mathematics… some of us have been working on that for a while. Artificial General Intelligence List<https://agi.topicbox.com/latest> / AGI / see discussions<https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + participants<https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + delivery options<https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> Permalink<https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T682a307a763c1ced-M5b45da5fff085a720d8ea765> ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T682a307a763c1ced-M844f85d23b2020dafbaecc77 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
