Ah, I see, and thank you for the honest reaction. While there are some conceptual overlaps with Colin’ emphasis on embodiment and electromagnetic fields. The EDI framework it's not just about using fields for the sake of embodiment, it highlights how *learning and meaning occur directly from spatiotemporal electrodynamic processes*, as observed in real neural recordings.
The original data, yes, recorded over 20 years ago, revealed overlooked spatial patterns that suggest spikes (action potentials) carry semantics after learning. The framework builds from that insight toward a *testable physical model* of cognition, rather than a purely philosophical stance. I'm always open to disagreement, and your pushback helps clarify the distinctions, so thanks again for that. Absolutely, fair point! Australia does have solid contributions in neuromorphic computing, and BrainChip is a great example of that momentum. It’s encouraging to see initiatives like that pushing hardware toward more brain-like architectures.And yes, I’ll concede New Zealand might have beat many in space rocketry for now! 😉 Jokes aside, these regional strengths could play an important role if the focus broadens beyond LLMs. A well-timed investment or collaboration could spark that "Sputnik moment" from unexpected places.... ---Dorian Aur On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 7:46 PM Rob Freeman <chaotic.langu...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 2:06 AM Dorian Aur <dorian...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> ...Clearly, the EDI prototype cannot be built in a garage like earlier >> tech breakthroughs, its development demands sophisticated fabrication >> tools, multidisciplinary expertise, and access to advanced materials and >> infrastructure.This marks a shift from the era of individual inventors to >> one where coordinated institutional and national support becomes essential. >> With targeted investment from both public and private sectors, a functional >> *EDI >> prototype* could realistically be developed within 2–3 years, maybe less >> given the current pace of innovation >> > > Ah, well, you may have lost me there Dorian. So this is based on Colin > Hales ideas that cognition can only be built by directly using > electromagnetic fields. That's just the "embodiment" aspect of Colin's > ideas I objected to earlier. > > I don't think an effective dynamical insight into cognition need be > limited to any particular substrate. Worrying too much about the hardware > could hold us back. > > PS While Colin and Australia may not currently rank among the top >> countries positioned to build an EDI prototype, a "Sputnik moment" can >> occur from anywhere. The risk lies in focusing narrowly on LLMs and missing >> the broader paradigm shift >> > > On that point let me mention that Australia doesn't do too badly on the > neuromorphic computing front (though of course they lag New Zealand in > orbital and lunar rocketry :-) Moderately prominent neuromorphic startup > BrainChip hails from Australia. > *Artificial General Intelligence List <https://agi.topicbox.com/latest>* > / AGI / see discussions <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + > participants <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + > delivery options <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> > Permalink > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Ta9b77fda597cc07a-M91d47197863c50de568eb9c2> > ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Ta9b77fda597cc07a-M866699e4d620f1f6aa9699c3 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
