Are *you* "conscious"? On Thu, Nov 13, 2025 at 9:32 PM Matt Mahoney <[email protected]> wrote:
> Panpsychism (everything is conscious) is indistinguishable from > materialism (nothing is conscious). Or is there an experiment that would > tell us which universe we are in? > > -- Matt Mahoney, [email protected] > > On Sun, Nov 9, 2025, 10:55 AM John Rose via AGI <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> On Sunday, November 09, 2025, at 8:34 AM, Matt Mahoney wrote: >> >> Are dogs conscious? Are fish conscious? Are insects conscious? At what >> point after conception does a human become conscious? Is an LLM that passes >> the Turing test conscious? Is a simple reinforcement learner like >> http://mattmahoney.net/autobliss.txt conscious? >> >> A philosophical zombie is defined to be exactly like a human by any >> behavioral test except for lacking consciousness. Are you OK with this >> definition? If not, what is your test for consciousness? >> >> >> UCP consciousness is easy, everything has consciousness just some things >> have more. And it should be somewhat computable or estimable. Animals >> obviously are conscious, bugs, bacteria, the tricky things are rocks but >> take that down to atomic. Does an atom have consciousness? Yes simply >> because it is possible to know that it exists via some physical >> interaction, a protocol, and for it to sense that something else exists. >> But an insect would have less consciousness than a human simply due to the >> scaling. Humans have more bandwidth and symbol complexity. An exercise >> might be to determine if one protein molecule has more consciousness than a >> different protein molecule. Does empty space have consciousness? Yes it >> would have to since forces are present. >> >> Sounds simplistic but to me it seems to resolve ALL issues with >> consciousness. It might not be complete with quantum fields or whatever but >> I think it might just fit in with entanglement, superposition, etc.. >> > *Artificial General Intelligence List <https://agi.topicbox.com/latest>* > / AGI / see discussions <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + > participants <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + > delivery options <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> > Permalink > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T7ff992c51cca9e36-M6f34aeef6851564b09838192> > ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T7ff992c51cca9e36-M2ddf75ab2446629004f03168 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
