You extract zero point energy as Hawking radiation. Expressed in order of magnitude Planck units, a black hole with mass m and Schwartzchid radius m converts mass to radiation at temperature 1/m with power 1/m^2 until it evaporates after time m^3. Your 2 Kg generator is about 10^8 Planck masses, and would emit 10^-16 Planck power units or 10^34 W. This is about the power output of all the stars in this galaxy. It will evaporate after 10^24 Planck times, or 10^-18 seconds, after releasing 10^17 J or 25 megatons. I understand why investors were skittish.
To actually build a reasonable sized power plant like 10 GW or 10^-40 Planck units, you need a black hole the size of a proton and a mass of 10^20 Planck masses or 10^8 tons. The black hole would emit hard gamma rays as powerful as a nuclear reactor core. It would have to be suspended in a vacuum because 50% of any matter that falls into it will be converted to energy. There is a risk of it swallowing the Earth, releasing 10^42 J, which would destroy the Sun and other planets. Besides these technical issues, how would you even make a black hole? -- Matt Mahoney, [email protected] On Sun, Nov 16, 2025, 10:27 PM Quan Tesla <[email protected]> wrote: > Matt > > Please refer to Writer of the Mind's comment. The brief answer is: No, > it's not perpetual motion. There are signficant technical challenges facing > ZPE research, for example power output and amperes. However, I suspect > those challenges have been addressed by dark projects. E.g, a friend passed > on a recent mobile pic by vacationers in a remote area. Great sky viewing > out there. Pic clearly shows what the observers thought was a "portal > opening". My opinion was that it was a secret experiment in ZPE, and a > Schwartzchild black hole was being formed in the Earth's atmosphere. There > were whispy "chaotic-looking clouds" around it, which should be resident, > quantum foam. I asked how long it was visible for, the friend relayed, ~5 > min. That's pretty long for wormholes. In theory, they must be traversed > within miliseconds. It must've been a most advanced experiment. Having said > that, it may also have been the light playing tricks on their eyes. We > don't know with certainty. > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2025 at 12:39 AM WriterOfMinds < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> On Sunday, November 16, 2025, at 2:42 PM, Matt Mahoney wrote: >> >> Are you talking about a perpetual motion? >> >> >> A ZPE device (I'm used to seeing the acronym translated to "zero point >> energy") is not a perpetual motion machine in the usual sense. It >> (theoretically) extracts latent energy from the quantum vacuum and makes it >> usable. So it does not create energy from nothing, nor does it have to >> convert/use energy losslessly. Technically it does have an input, just not >> one the user has to provide. >> >> A lot of the usual questions still apply. Any free energy device that's >> more than vaporware should already be making its possessor money ... >> especially since you can sort of directly convert electricity into money >> via crypto mining, now. Why is there a need to beg investors for anything? >> > *Artificial General Intelligence List <https://agi.topicbox.com/latest>* > / AGI / see discussions <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + > participants <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + > delivery options <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> > Permalink > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T7ff992c51cca9e36-Mf4d86a3905beef47054daab3> > ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T7ff992c51cca9e36-M512488030a9cff026f221625 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
