Technically, OpenAI exploited AI speed to be the first to submit a 166 page
complete thereom using a different approach. In a narrow sense, that gives
them the prize advantage.

However, in a more general scientific and IP sense, if AI didn't ingest a
"benchmark" model, it would probable not have attempted an "alternative" or
"different" approach. Therefore, the actual date of "prior art" proof moves
further back.

A probably caused B, the former had to exist for the latter to emerge.
Therefore, the former existed a-priori.

This is not a patent application. The branches may have physically  borne
fruit first, but the evidence of an ingested root-recipe stemmed from the
nutrient uptake.

Chickens and Eggs

On Wed, 09 Sept 2026, 09:40 SunTzuWarmaster, <[email protected]>
wrote:

> There's potentially a perfect ending to this story - it's that the two
> human authors get the prize money and openAI gete a funding round.
>
> I believe that humans currently award the prize money, right?
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 06:28 Quan Tesla <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thank you for sharing. This is just "wow!", but no surprises, really.
>>
>> It's not true that collaborating with a public, or subscribed-to LLM
>> auto-invalidates IP claims. Privately, LLMs vlaim confidentiality and
>> limited historical memory span. As my recent research report proves, this
>> seems to be a convenient false fabrication.
>>
>> E g., recently, a public, non-subscribed to AI quoted me in a
>> conversation we had back in March, 2025. Selective memories.
>>
>> However, full conversational transcripts are advised and best to publish
>> a short note on Zenodo, even as a preprint. Unless international laws
>> recently changed, my recent investigation concluded as such.
>>
>> Any public submission by author(s)without licensing or "prior art" claims
>> asserted, probably would invalidate claims. Apparently, even.journal
>> submissions are at risk. Two words: "Prior Art".
>>
>> Based on the document provided publicly, and speaking as an IP producer,
>> it's my opinion that "prior art" can easily be demonstrated in this case.
>> Smart move!
>>
>> Unless OpenAI's public policy clearly and legally stated ceding of IP
>> rights as a condition of use of their AI tool, and if they could provide
>> proof of the user opting in, AI remains but a tool - not a legal entity and
>> the IP belongs to the human-in-the-lead of the collaboration.
>>
>> Indeed, this is a potentially LLM-shattering moment. When collaborating
>> as "human architect and researcher" with AI, humans must fight back to
>> retain rights to decades of processed and refined information, especially
>> for patterns, discoveries, insights, intuition, ideas, approaches, and
>> formalizations.
>>
>> At this stage, EU laws seem to be far more IP and privacy friendly.
>>
>> On Wed, 09 Sept 2026, 06:48 Shashank Yadav, <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This statement is worth reading:
>>> https://cims.nyu.edu/~tristanb/statement.pdf
>>> I bet that rumors of someone affiliated with a competitor solving this
>>> triggered the sudden Open AI blitz (~10,000 parallel agents taking over 100
>>> billion tokens over 88 hours). This was not Open AI models doing math
>>> independently, but building on the researchers' private work ingested
>>> through their own platform. They even tried to get Tristan to remove his
>>> Anthropic co-author from the work. It seems there is no intellectual
>>> property claims if you involve someone else's AI to develop your work.
>>>
>>>
>>> regards, Shashank
>>> The task is not impossible. <https://muskdeer.blogspot.com/>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Quan Tesla <[email protected]>
>>> To: "AGI"<[email protected]>
>>> Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2026 09:06:47 +0530
>>> Subject: Re: [agi] OpenAI solves Navier Stokes
>>>
>>> Humorous. AI and I developed the exact framework during the past months.
>>> It informed me that it appropriated my work. I accepted that as part of my
>>> intent.
>>>
>>> AFAIK, the process won't work without my constant, which is published
>>> under EU law and a global, non-commercial license. I'll challenge all
>>> provable misappropriation. There's no sunset clause on those licenses yet.
>>>
>>> Haramein claims his unification paper is due in a few months. Can"t wait!
>>>
>>> Either way, anyone who earns profit off my constant and refuses to cite
>>> would be called out. I've called out Google's Gemini twice already for
>>> violations. All transcripts kept offline. If that is what it takes.
>>>
>>> No more stealing years of human effort and knowledge by AI owners while
>>> crediting a non-legal entity, AI. That delusion must end, and if not, it
>>> might be time to release the Kraken and publish what I have.
>>>
>>> Gödel's 3rd Law should suffice.
>>>
>>> I'm in favor of a balance of power.
>>>
>>> On Wed, 09 Sept 2026, 04:43 Matt Mahoney, <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> OpenAI today (Sept 8 2026) solved Navier Stokes, one of the seven $1
>>> million Clay Millineum problems, in 88 hours by a collaboration of 10,000
>>> agents running an unreleased model. It took another 17 hours on their most
>>> advanced public model to produce a Lean model so that the proof can be
>>> mechanically verified. There is also a 166 page paper with no human authors
>>> listed because no team of humans could have possibly written it that fast.
>>> OpenAI only decided to tackle the problem after hearing a rumor (unfounded)
>>> on Sept. 1 that somebody else had solved it. The problem has been open
>>> since 1936 and the $1 million prize has been unclaimed since 2000.
>>>
>>> https://openai.com/index/navier-stokes-solution
>>>
>>> The problem asks if an incompressible viscous liquid subjected only to
>>> smooth forces and with finite energy can develop singularities, points with
>>> infinite velocity within finite time. The answer is yes. The paper
>>> describes a rotating shrinking vortex with fluid flowing inward around the
>>> equator and out the poles under certain non obvious conditions.
>>>
>>> If you are still waiting for AGI or ASI or whatever you call it when
>>> machines surpass human intelligence, how much more proof do you need?
>>>
>>> -- Matt Mahoney, [email protected]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Artificial General Intelligence List <https://agi.topicbox.com/latest>*
> / AGI / see discussions <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> +
> participants <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> +
> delivery options <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription>
> Permalink
> <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Tf866419d43752e9c-Ma2f40d474074676c2fea1893>
>

------------------------------------------
Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI
Permalink: 
https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Tf866419d43752e9c-M698f0c636cd307bfede0a0f2
Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription

Reply via email to