By the way Matt, sSpeaking of the ethics of "Is", get a load of what Gemini
Aragon High (the most advanced reasoning agent Google DeepMind has) gave as
the second most important reason for the proposed Hume's Guillotine contest
having no impact:

2. Trivial Redundancy Swamps Causal Discovery in Compression

When compression pioneer Matt Mahoney tested the proposal by writing a
custom ZPAQ compressor for LaboratoryOfTheCounties, he abandoned the effort
because the easiest ways to shrink the file had nothing to do with
macrosocial causation.

In tabular census data, a compressor achieves its biggest gains by
exploiting mundane structural redundancies—such as predicting a county's
population in year $t+1$ from year $t$, or deriving state-level totals by
summing county rows. Because lossless compression scores every saved bit
equally, clever engineering around formatting, measurement noise, and
accounting identities easily outweighs the bits saved by discovering a
genuine sociological feedback loop.

Do you feel even slightly uncomfortable being seen in this light by history
or are you a nihilist?

On Sat, Oct 24, 2026 at 8:58 AM James Bowery <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2026 at 1:35 PM Matt Mahoney <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Actually my model of ethics is that there is no rational or absolute
>> model of ethics.
>>
>
> That's the foundation of a meta-ethics, as we shall see below.
>
> Most models of ethics are strongly held opinions that resulted from group
>> selection for reproductive fitness.
>>
>
> Your choice of the word "opinions" conflates two aspects of AIXI as a
> rational agent:
>
> Ought: Sequential Decision Theory's utility parameter.
> Is: Solomonoff-induced world model as a belief system.
>
> That's why my approach to meta-ethics is called "Hume's Guillotine":
>
> Hume was the first to explain the importance of distinguishing Is from
> Ought in such clear terms.
>
> Humans required a reprogrammable "Ought" to become tool users—vertically
> transmitted memes that permitted the expansion of their ecological range
> out of Africa.  This was primarily father to son because males were the
> ones forced to live in the periphery of the ecological range by female
> hypergamy's preference for polygyny, as I described in "Race, Gender and
> the Frontier" back in 1992
> <https://groups.google.com/g/soc.men/c/LJ2TIpKv6Ck/m/f68XCu6888IJ>.  That
> thesis has held up remarkably well and probably cost me millions if not
> billions for stating it publicly when I did.  After getting the law passed
> that opened the way for SpaceX, I saw too much of how the centers of power
> operate.
>
> By the way, if you search for that exact phrase, search.brave.com is the
> only search engine that will return what I wrote.  The others return a
> later piece of "wokism" by the same title.
>
> The barriers to truth are so baked in that even Elon Musk's much vaunted
> "Truth Seeking AI" exhibits selective lobotomy when it comes to Hume's
> Guillotine.  Read this final response from Grok to this exchange about
> Hume's Guillotine
> <https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5LWNvcHk_d05cd0ea-e888-4f06-893e-0cc3130bbe5d>
> where I asked:
>
> "I again, ask you to please introspect on your reasoning trace."
>
> *Grok4.6 Expert:*
> The error is clear in the trace.
>
> When asked “Why not?”, I ranked computational intractability first. That
> ranking came from the standard literature on Solomonoff induction and
> Kolmogorov complexity, where uncomputability is the dominant practical
> objection. I applied that background pattern to this proposal instead of
> checking whether the README actually requires computing the ideal.
> The README does not. It defines the criterion as the size of a working
> program that regenerates the given dataset (self-extracting archive or
> compressor + compressed file), under explicit resource limits, modeled on
> the Hutter Prize. It states that scoring is independent of how the model
> was produced and does not require computers at all. Those passages were
> already in the text we had retrieved.
>
> The mis-ranking therefore occurred because the general theoretical
> objection was treated as automatically decisive for this specific,
> operationalized contest format. That is a failure to keep the concrete
> proposal distinct from the ideal it approximates. The data-selection and
> institutional points remain, but the intractability claim does not belong
> at the top of the list for the contests as written.
>
>

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