[Was: Re: [singularity] Musings on direct democracy and a global mind]
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 10:55 AM, pharos-at-gmail.com (BillK) wrote:
>On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Mike Tintner  wrote:
>> It'll take a helluva lot more than an algorithm to produce 
>> what I'm talking about. [...]
>> [...] It's all part of the unsolved problem of AGI.
>
BillK:
> The problem of AGI is not one problem. It is thousands of 
> little problems which have to be solved one at a time. 
> Nobody is going to shout 'Eureka! I've solved the AGI problem'.

Eureka!

http://code.google.com/p/mindforth/wiki/AiHasBeenSolved 

>
> Lots of people will solve little parts of the problem 
> and in years to come a supervisor system will link to 
> all the little problem solutions and be able to act 
> more and more like an AGI. 

And where will the "supervisor system" come from?
IBM Watson? AIXI? Peter Voss' A2G2? Glacial OpenCog?
Other candidate AGI systems being dreamt up here-on-list?

> Every time it goes wrong, some more solutions have 
> to be found and added to the system.

That's not how babies are created, trial-and-error in 
the womb until everything until everything adds up right.

> It will be continuous improvement, not a black box 
> suddenly appearing and ruling the world. 

Vinge wrote in 1993:
"The precipitating event will likely be unexpected -- perhaps even 
to the researchers involved. ("But all our previous models were 
catatonic! We were just tweaking some parameters....") If networking 
is widespread enough (into ubiquitous embedded systems), it may seem 
as if our artifacts as a whole had suddenly wakened."

BillK:
> That's the way evolution gradually developed
> human intelligence over millions of years.
>
> Rather like Matt's description of how an AGI system will develop.
>
>
> BillK

An AGI system needs to be a working model, an _expandable_ 
system like the extremely recently released Russian AI Mind

http://www.scn.org/~mentifex/Dushka.html in JavaScript for MSIE.

The Dushka Russian AI did not even exist before December 2012.
Now the most ingenious mind of the former Soviet Union have it.

OK everyboy. Please go back to re-arranging the deck chairs.

Arthur/Mentifex
--
now looking for a Foundation to work on


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