I see, so by your definition, anything that is engineered or designed by humans is "narrow AI" ...
Do you also believe that anything that is evolved by natural selection, for differential fitness in particular sorts of environments, is "narrow AI"? I note, however, that the math you are using your own AI approach was also designed by humans (posets etc.). So doesn't that also make your own approach narrow AI? Or do you believe that posets come from the Gods, whereas other algorithms and data structures are of merely human origin?? ben On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Sergio Pissanetzky <[email protected]>wrote: > BEN> Obviously our goal is to engineer something that can effectively and > efficiently re-engineer itself, using its own inference. **** > > SERGIO REPLIES> Of course, but the inference you are using is in turn > engineered and therefore narrow AI. **** > > ** ** > > BEN> On DeSTIN.**** > > SERGIO REPLIES> Thanks Ben. Yes, that's it. Just from what you say, it > seems to me that DeSTIN is also being engineered and also narrow AI. You > will have success doing that, because of the massive scale, but it is still > not AGI. If an AGI is a machine with a human level of intelligence, then it > should be able to do what engineers do and render narrow AI unnecessary. * > *** > > ** ** > > Sergio**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Ben Goertzel [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 13, 2012 10:58 AM > > *To:* AGI > *Subject:* Re: [agi] Representations and data structures**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Sergio Pissanetzky < > [email protected]> wrote:**** > > Ben, **** > > **** > > The difference is between you engineer it, using the inference in your > brain, or it engineers itself, using its own inference. **** > > > That's a bogus dichotomy. Obviously our goal is to engineer something > that can effectively and efficiently re-engineer itself, using its own > inference. **** > > > **** > > Second comment. Well, maybe I misread something you posted. I remember you > were doing something with centers of gravity for Destin. Would you care to > explain what it was? And what is Destin?**** > > > > DeSTIN is a deep learning architecture for perceptual data processing, > which was developed by Itamar Arel at the University of Tennessee, and is > going to be integrated into OpenCog to serve as its "perceptual cortex" > .... It has nothing to do with centers of gravity, although it does use > clustering as one sub-algorithm, and these clusters have centroids -- > perhaps that is what you are thinking of. > > ben **** > > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/18883996-f0d58d57>| > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > **** > > <http://www.listbox.com>**** > > ** ** > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/212726-11ac2389> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > -- Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-c97d2393 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-2484a968 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
