Hi Ben, It seems strange to me that NN's aren't effective for dealing with reason, logic and language, etc - after all our brains seem to be capable of it? Perhaps current research is not taking the right approaches / our understanding is too limited?
Good to see it has some applications though. On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote: > > Look at Juergen Schmidhuber's work, as a good example of RNNs pushed to > the limit of current understanding... > > Recurrent NNs, like other purely subsymbolic methods, have not proven > convenient (or maximally effective) for carrying out tasks involving logic, > language, reasoning, etc. ... > > For tasks involving sensory perception, motor control or data > classification or nonlinear regression, NNs are powerful and demonstrably > applicable -- but, tend to take more computing resources and (importantly) > require more case-by-case tuning and fiddling, than other methods.... > > For instance, > > -- to do supervised data classification, I'd choose SVMs over NNs, on > grounds of speed and auto-tunability > > -- to do vision processing, I'd choose a non-NN hierarchical architecture > like DeSTIN over an NN, on similar grounds > > ... ben > > > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Jarrad Hope <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I was wondering if anyone could point me to some resources on developing >> AGI with neural networks? >> (variants of ann and learning algorithms) >> >> So far I'm aware that it should be a form of RNN - I have been looking at >> BlueBrain alot - but I feel that modeling a mammalians brain in that much >> detail is better suited for WBE rather than a strictly AGI goal. >> >> Also why aren't ANN's used almost exclusively in developing AGI - is it a >> memory/computational power hurdle? or is there some other limiting factor I >> am not aware of. >> >> Regards, >> Jarrad >> >> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/212726-11ac2389> | >> Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription >> <http://www.listbox.com> >> > > > > -- > Ben Goertzel, PhD > http://goertzel.org > > "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche > > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/22581513-9fe46a1c> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-c97d2393 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-2484a968 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
