Looks good in principle.  I'd like to see some diagrams.The Architecture is the 
key.

~PM.

> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 03:08:36 -0400
> From: [email protected]
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> Subject: [agi] superintelligence.
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> Note to ZS readers: save this message for Monday, I just had to get it 
> off my HD tonight. (too lazy to hold it).
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> om
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> Today I've decided, foolishly, to spill the beans on some of my more 
> advanced concepts for AI. I'm going to cover the parts of my Hypermind 
> architecture that I can remember right now and discuss their feasibility 
> and the technical problems in implementing them on both hardware and as 
> a bio-retrofit.
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> The basic capabilities I'll be discussing are distinct but closely related:
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> -> Algorithmic learning.
> -> multi-session intelligence with interleaved sleep and wake sessions.
> -> multi-configuration intelligence
> -> distributed intelligence
> -> High performance intelligence.
> 
> om
> 
> One of the annoyingist things about learning is repetition, or having to 
> go through ginormous training sets to learn a simple idea. Neural nets, 
> both natural and artificial use what is called adaptive learning. 
> Obviously, it isn't all that great, even in the high performance neurons 
> we humans get to use. What is going on is that our populations of 
> neurons have to be slowly nudged into the shape we want them to be in. 
> This takes practice, repetition, and lots of Dr. Pepper. (not that I use 
> that specific drink).
> 
> What if we could learn algorithmically? What if we only needed to be 
> exposed to enough input to reasonably disambiguate the information to be 
> learned and then be able to use that knowledge, with masterful skill 
> until we run out of disk space and are forced to prune back the 
> less-useful stuff... The human memory system appears to be able to 
> buffer information in short term memory long enough for the long-term 
> neural nets to learn it, intellectually at least (with pathetically 
> limited bandwidth)... Skill memory is much trickier because it involves 
> wiring up what amount to new processor elements. So a student of math, 
> at any level, must work through many related problems before the skill 
> pathways begin to form, the long term memory is mostly useless for this 
> kind of skill... The amount of practice required to master a musical 
> instrument is legendary.
> 
> The first step is to identify what exactly needs to be learned. That is 
> why the human brain relies on its imagination as it's primary mode of 
> perception. It compares the actual scene with the imagined scene to 
> identify surprising stimuli which it has special neurons rigged to 
> detect and then focus as learning targets. The most annoying kinds of 
> sounds are sounds that can't be modeled by the brain and therefore are 
> constantly hitting this surprise circuit. The brain is certainly much 
> more advanced than current neural networks but can we go any further? We 
> need is a much more efficient means of generating motor programs. One of 
> the issues is that the brain is pattern based, not math based, a math 
> co-processor, much more precise and reliable than the cerebellum could 
> provide the means for much more precise mental rehearsals. Furthermore, 
> if the information is stored in discreet data structures rather than a 
> matrix-blob as current neural networks are (or as a physically fixed 
> cortical circuit), then an algebra and optimization process can be 
> performed on them to much more quickly derive a more optimal 
> representation that would otherwise take years to develop through practice.
> 
> Another problem with the matrix representation is that it simulates 
> neural plasticity with a vector of weights. In larger networks, this 
> vector is almost sure to be relatively sparse and therefore considerable 
> amounts of computation will be wasted computing N*0 . Therefore the 
> conventional systems are inherently unscaleable in addition to having 
> the previously mentioned weaknesses.
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> In a biological context we need pattern processing elements that can be 
> re-configured programatically and we need an organ that can inspect and 
> re-organize these pattern processing elements on a continual basis.
> 
> om
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> One of the crippling limitations of our current neural architecture is 
> that we can only do one thing at a time. The best we can do is rapidly 
> time-share our brains between two tasks. This will almost inevitably 
> lead to confusion as I frequently try to read an article and listen to a 
> video talk or internet radio talk show at the same time. Our brains also 
> must spend about 1/3rd of their time doing house-keeping tasks and 
> simulations to rehearse behaviors and consolidate memories. What if we 
> could treat our knowledge and memories as a mainframe hosted database 
> and run tens of thousands of fully isolated concurrent processes over 
> it. It might cut out useful forms of confusion but it would also allow 
> us to fire up as many sessions as we need to process our 21st century 
> information diet. This, again, requires us to be able to process 
> memories and skills as discreet units that can be treated symbolically 
> so that cached copies in different partitions can be re-integrated, as 
> it has been noted that this won't work in neural nets.
> 
> So we need a cognitive architecture that can be multi-tasked out to the 
> limit of the hardware... Conceptually, this is no different than how an 
> operating system carries out multitasking, it is only necessary to be 
> able to virtualize the hardware and run the virtual instances 
> concurrently. Then RDBMS techniques can be applied to the stored 
> abstractions and there you go...
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> In a biological context, it is necessary to be able to tag and index 
> activation patterns so that they can be processed independently against 
> the set of abstractions.
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> om
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> When one thinks about all the kinds of things one would want to extend 
> one's mind into in all of transhumandom (real world applications always 
> being more interesting than VR...) one is boggled by the variety. On the 
> extreme, you might want a highly optimized flame-bot for getting into 
> IRC and mailing list flame-wars, its modalities would be primarily 
> text-based and would only have enough visualization to be able to 
> properly interpret the language. On the other extreme you would might 
> have a very large and highly complex virtual body with many conventional 
> and unconventional modalities for 3rd generation cyber-sex... Both 
> systems would act concurrently on the same database... The basic problem 
> is that you need to select and configure an ad-hoc network of functional 
> units as needed for the selected embodyment. The fixed white-matter 
> pathways one finds in conventional brains (and simulations thereof) 
> hardly provides for any flexibility. The only solution is to chuck it 
> and use computer data structures.
> 
> A biologically embodied superintelligence wouldn't need to deal with as 
> much change as mentioned above. It would be sufficient that it merely 
> have a few spare general-purpose channels that can be tasked as 
> necessary. Additional capabilities would come through networking in 
> semi-sentient sub-units.
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> om
> 
> That brings us to distributed intelligence. For many reasons it is 
> desirable to spread a mind across geographically separated locations. 
> The physical security of any one site can never be perfect and it is 
> probable that low-latency interactions will be desirable in a number of 
> contexts. The first issue is latency, the second issue is the one Eugene 
> likes to beat us over the head with, synchronizing slower hosts with 
> faster hosts. There are two basic types of interactions here. The first 
> is the knowledge, skills, and memories. This level of knowledge, as I 
> proposed above, can be treated like a database and therefore the 
> standard synchronization techniques can be applied. Latency is not a 
> major problem though bandwidth is. As bandwidth becomes choked, each 
> side the link will have to prioritize traffic. This is not a problem at 
> all. What is a problem is the high level executive function, the thread 
> of consciousness who's modality is to manage all of the other parallel 
> operations. As the system becomes larger, it will be necessary to apply 
> a deeper and deeper hierarchy of executive functions. Unless there's a 
> major breakthrough in quantum communication, it appears that it will be 
> necessary that the top level executive function will necessarily be 
> quite slow. However, this does not place any constraints on the 
> subordinate exeucitives, or the workers. Unlike what you may have read 
> in sci-fi, the parts of the AI you actually interact with locally will 
> run at full speed but they will not have any special privileges in 
> communicating with other agents within the same mind on a distant planet.
> 
> Eugene says that neural interfaces are pointless because human neurology 
> is so many orders of magnitude slower than an AI substrate (actually, he 
> claims this is true of uploads too!!!). He never goes past the quick 
> put-down. He assumes what he perceives to be perfectly obvious to be an 
> insurmountable, unavoidable obstacle. The question is, exactly how much 
> communication do you need between the "fast" parts of your mind and the 
> legacy parts of your mind? Is there sufficient bandwidth available and 
> does the latency create a bottleneck?
> 
> As I explained above, when bandwidth is limited, then only the most 
> important messages are sent. This is an inherent limitation in the human 
> brain that simply cannot be overcome by any conceivable technique, 
> including uploading, because the neural architecture is too limited in 
> capacity and has the previously mentioned limitations in learning and 
> scalability. It is also acknowledged that a slow-time or even uploaded 
> human would have difficulty managing more than a small number of 
> interlinked agents. The only way around that is to use a more powerful 
> executive function external to the base neural architecture. This does 
> have the side effect of reducing you to an appendage of a larger being 
> but I'm pretty sure that's the best deal you can possibly get. The best 
> part of it, you get to live through the process!
> 
> om
> 
> Now for the last part of the discussion, pushing performance through the 
> roof. "clock speed" and even basic algorithmic tweaks are too trivial to 
> mention. Where the real gold is, is in expanding the architecture to be 
> able to grok a chemistry database of 2 * 10^6 unique chemicals. Or truly 
> understand 5-space physics. What you need is the ability to manipulate 
> and extend the architecture of the mind as the cognitive demands arise. 
> It's difficult to say when a new domain sub-processor would be 
> required... Maybe a frustration detector would be able to identify where 
> the existing system is failing, or maybe the problem would be optimized 
> out by assuming everything is higher-dimensional from the outset and 
> only reducing dimensions as the true eigen-spaces become apparent. 
> Regardless, the true power of superintelligence is the ability to expand 
> and reconfigure as the need arises. This approach, and only this 
> approach is capable of tackling the grand challenges of the universe.
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> Conclusion: superintelligence looks nothing like an upload! =P
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