On 12/10/2012 5:03 AM, Mike Tintner wrote:
The real lesson here, Jim is the end:
"We suggest that iconicity provides scaffolding – a middle-ground – to bridge the "great divide" between linguistic form and bodily experience for both sign language and spoken language learners," says Thompson.
I would put my own take on this:
Language IS “sign language”/ “iconic” - words are, in a qualified sense, irrelevant – a linguistic/conceptual system is basically a system of iconic signs – “outlines” of objects and groups of objects. “Analog” not digital. To grasp that involves a massive cultural leap which is happening and unstoppable. I should add that I am just getting into reading about the argument for the origins of language in sign language which is a strong one and very extensively argued and debated – and I suspect like much other crucial science, largely unknown to AGI-ers.

That's right, Mike. We do not think in terms of language. We think in terms of concepts, which are referred by language.

*From:* Jim Bromer <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Monday, December 10, 2012 3:52 AM
*To:* AGI <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [agi] The road to language learning is iconic
Blind children can learn language too.
Jim Bromer

On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Mike Tintner <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


        The road to language learning is iconic

    November 13th, 2012 in Psychology & Psychiatry

    *Languages are highly complex systems and yet most children seem
    to acquire language easily, even in the absence of formal
    instruction. New research on young children's use of British Sign
    Language (BSL) sheds light on one of the mechanisms -iconicity-
    that may endow children with this amazing ability.*

    For spoken and written language, the arbitrary relationship
    between a word's form – how it sounds or how it looks on paper –
    and its meaning is a particularly challenging feature of language
    acquisition. But one of the first things people notice about sign
    languages is that signs often represent aspects of meaning in
    their form. For example, in BSL the sign EAT involves bringing the
    hand to the mouth just as you would if you were bringing food to
    the mouth to eat it.

    In fact, a high proportion of signs across the world's sign
    languages are similarly iconic, connecting human experience to
    linguistic form.

    Robin Thompson and colleagues David Vison, Bencie Woll, and
    Gabriella Vigliocco at the Deafness, Cognition and Language
    Research Centre (DCAL) at University College London in the United
    Kingdom wanted to examine whether this kind of iconicity might
    provide a key to understanding how children come to link words to
    their meaning.

    Their findings are published in/Psychological Science/, a journal
    of the Association for Psychological Science.

    The researchers looked at data from 31 deaf children who were
    being raised in deaf BSL signing families in the United Kingdom.
    Parents indicated the number of words understood and produced by
    their children between the ages of 8 and 30 months. The
    researchers decided to focus on 89 specific signs, examining
    children's familiarity with the signs as well as the iconicity and
    complexity of the signs.

    The findings reveal that younger (11-20 months) and older (21-30
    months) children comprehended and produced more BSL signs that
    were iconic than those that were less iconic. And the benefit of
    iconicity seemed to be greater for the older children.
    Importantly, this relationship did not seem to depend on how
    familiar, complex or concrete the words were.

    Together, these findings suggest that iconicity could play an
    important role in language acquisition.

    Thompson and colleagues hypothesize that iconic links between our
    perceptual-motor experience of the world and the form of a sign
    may provide an imitation-based mechanism that supports early sign
    acquisition. These iconic links highlight motor and perceptual
    similarity between actions and signs such as DRINK, which is
    produced by tipping a curved hand to the mouth and represents the
    action of holding a cup and drinking from it.

    The researchers emphasize that these results can also be applied
    to spoken languages, in which gestures, tone of voice, inflection,
    and face-to-face communication can help make the link between
    words and their meanings less arbitrary.

    "We suggest that iconicity provides scaffolding – a middle-ground
    – to bridge the "great divide" between linguistic form and bodily
    experience for both sign language and spoken language learners,"
    says Thompson.

    Provided by Association forPsychological Science

    "The road to language learning is iconic." November 13th,
    2012.http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-11-road-language-iconic.html

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