*Matt Mahoney is the ultimate troll: 18 responses to this thread so far. :-)
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On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Logan Streondj <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hey, so HSPL/GI-OS is an AGI project where increments are readily testable,
> in fact each new increment has a new test for it's functionality, as new
> features are added.
>
> The roadmap leads all the way to intelligent AGI societies, space travel
> and all that.  Obviously that is going to be a long way off and in the next
> few years are still going to be working on the programming language.
>
> Though even within the programming language roadmap we have the capacity
> of fault-tolerance will be added, through the use of "OR" sentences,
> allowing for multiple routes to solving a problem,  it can then take
> advantage of parallel processors by attempting several solution styles at
> once, and using one or more of their results to get a best solution.
>
> Meanwhile it's a road of integrating all the various innovation that have
> happened in computers from bottom up in a human speakable format.
>
> Likely we'll support low-level cognitive processes long before we support
> the high-level ones,  similar to how brains evolved over time, starting
> with he lowest levels and working up.  Some studies have showed that
> without the emotional brain the logical brain is rather useless, since it's
> the emotional brain that makes the decision, whereas the higher brain
> simply looks at the options.
>
> Anyways so my point being that it is possible to have incremental testing
> metrics for an AGI project.
>
> In terms of funding my idea is to make an amendment forum feature-request
> system with support for "bidding donations" in terms that people can donate
> to the project and use the credits to bid on a feature request,  then the
> developer that implements the features request or bug-fix gets large
> percentage of the money.
>
> I might develop it in parallel (PHP/SQL) in order to support the
> development of HSPL/GI-OS though it can also be used for other open source,
> community and charitable projects.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Steve,
>>
>> I am adjusting your statement to add what I think is missing:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "any prospective AGI platform absolutely **MUST** be capable of *rapidly
>>>> learning to* perform*ing* substantially all of the high-level
>>>> cognitive information processing functions that have been observed in human
>>>> mind/brains *without carefully ignoring areas (like the hypothalamus)
>>>> that perform functions that appear incompatible with the platform.*"
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>> The hypothalamus is not a function, but rather a system.   So to accord
>> with my statement you would need to enumerate which of the human mind's
>> high-level cognitive functions you think OpenCog (or other AGi designs)
>> ignores due to not adequately including sufficiently "hypothalamus-like"
>> components or processes...
>>
>> Also, I don't agree at all that an AGi must be capable fo rapidly
>> learning to perform all its high-level functions.  A human mind learns to
>> cognize over a period of years, and does so via a complex combination of
>> learning with the scheduled/triggered unveiling of genetically encoded
>> capabilities....   Similarly I think it's OK if an AGi learns its cognitive
>> capabilities over a period of years, and if it leverages some appropriately
>> in-built capabilities.  A human mind is not a tabula rasa, and nor need an
>> AGI mind be...
>>
>> -- Ben G
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