Well,

I don't want to sound like the other old white men here, but you are just 
twisting a form of supervised learning. I think in the long run we need to work 
out interactive models of disambiguation that include touching and handling and 
moving around, so that handling informs seeing as much as seeing informs 
handling. I can't see this happening without "features", we need not have hang 
ups about geometric shapes, rather we need real world statistics for the more 
likely combinations of shapes and colors and assemblies. I guess this is 
already a tall order and different from edge detection etc.

Now, to make things worse, an AGI will probably need to operate in real time in 
its world, so if it is not pointing a camera to a training set but rather, say, 
plays football, it will probably need to actively generate probabilities for 
different microverses (stochastic versions of its immediate environment) and 
then match them best as it can to the incoming data stream, rather than idly 
calculate some Bayesian. If you do kinda believe in evolution etc then you'll 
agree that the long lineage of organisms we are related to could hardly have 
bothered to recognize cones with attached triangles, but they sure as hell 
needed to get out of the way of sharks. Despite our human obsession with our 
ability to look at photographs and pigeonhole them, I have the suspicion those 
"survival metrics" never went away, and we're probably lucky they didn't. For 
example, the vast majority of cognitive and even physiological systems I know 
about, including human vision and vision physiology, are primed as is well 
known for change, they are looking out for new data (like you being able to 
find your mouse pointer much faster after a little vigorous movement as opposed 
to scanning the screen).

Microverses and stream processing all the way!

AT
On 15.01.2013, at 13:24, YKY (Yan King Yin, 
甄景贤)<[email protected]> wrote:

> Happy new year,
> 
> I have some new thoughts on visual recognition:
> http://geniferology.blogspot.hk/2013/01/on-visual-recognition.html
> 
> =)
> -- 
> YKY
> "The ultimate goal of mathematics is to eliminate any need for intelligent 
> thought" -- Alfred North Whitehead
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