I d On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Chris Nolan <[email protected]>wrote:
> Yeah, I've head similar problems with some of the machine learning classes > as coursera. I've really like udacity's program though, not sure if you've > checked it out? They've got two AI courses, one the classic Intro to AI > that covers a little bit of everything: > I am taking a course on Coursera and Udacity. I like both courses so far. I just did not know something about a state transition system and I did not know how to pick up on the way the professor was explaining the information. I misunderstood that something the professor had said was applicable to a state transition system. I am looking forward to both courses although it is going to be difficult for me to adhere to the Coursera schedule. Jim Bromer I found I found that I have to use the textbook with On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Chris Nolan <[email protected]>wrote: > Yeah, I've head similar problems with some of the machine learning classes > as coursera. I've really like udacity's program though, not sure if you've > checked it out? They've got two AI courses, one the classic Intro to AI > that covers a little bit of everything: > > https://www.udacity.com/course/cs271 > > I used the first version to help me with a general AI course I took last > year. They also have a more advanced AI for Robotics class that goes into > robot planning using probabilistic methods: > > https://www.udacity.com/course/cs373 > > I'm taking this one now. Overall I like their set up better than > coursera's (although it's still really good). They don't have as much > classes, but they incorporate videos and short programmng quizes in a way > that makes it easier to understand and apply. Their program is also > self-paced so you don't have to worry about Coursera's deadlines, just > learning the material and getting the work done. For both though, I've > found I have to have a textbook for review and to get the full background > and proofs behind the concepts. It just doesn't work for me otherwise. > > -Chris > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Jim Bromer <[email protected]> > *To:* AGI <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Friday, January 25, 2013 7:29 PM > *Subject:* [agi] I may be destined to be a hopeless dropout from online > introductory courses in AI > > I am taking two Introduction to AI online courses and I am making quite a > few mistakes. Some of the mistakes are just plain mistakes. But some are > due to annoying cutsieness. Here is an example: > > True or False > State transition systems can represent actions that occur in parallel. > > Well of course they can, but since this is an introductory course the > answer has to be False. > Ok, got that one right. > > A state transition graph may have multiple outgoing/incoming directed > edges that are labelled with the same action. > > Well I had a feeling that was a trick question given the answer to the > first question, and the answer is...True. True? My best guess is that the > term label was not being applied to *some particular* labelled actions but > to the choice of actions at a particular state, whereas each state is the > resultant of the action so they are thought of as particulars (like > values)? Maybe there is some other reasoning behind this but if there is I > can't figure it out. > > This was from an introductory course in AI planning. AI Planning! I find > this stuff intensely annoying. We cannot use a state transition diagram to > diagram parallel actions? (That would be impossible for anyone to even > consider. Your mind can't handle it.) But it can be used to represent > multiple outgoing/incoming directed edges labelled with the same action? > Is the teacher kidding? Maybe you guys who have already been through this > see some error that I don't see, but I just don't see why the teacher > cannot just come out and explain the conventions that are applied to > terminology (like "state transition diagram") and save the quizzes for the > good stuff. Why challenge the students with the professor's mastery of > ambiguity? > > I make a lot of really dense mistakes in these courses. I don't want to > waste my time trying to outwit the teacher's challenges about computational > phlogiston. > > Jim Bromer > > > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/20347893-f72b365c> | > Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com/> > > > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/10561250-470149cf> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
