Any experiments to back up these ideas?

On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 3:07 AM, YKY (Yan King Yin, 甄景贤) <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Jim Bromer <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Let me speak about something that (I can delude myself into thinking) I
>> know something about.  The section, "Geometrization of Inference," is based
>> on an primitive theory that semantics might be based on 'ontological
>> subsumption'. The problem with this, from the viewpoint that conceptual
>> relativism dominates conceptualization is that the supposed semantic space
>> has to be relativistic.  You can realize this in a number of ways.
>> Definitions of generalizations are specifications.  You can generalize
>> across any group of things.  The fact that you have to use concepts in
>> order to define or analyze concepts shows that no concept could be
>> considered without affecting it with the meanings or frames of the other
>> concepts.  So, for example, you can not view semantic space from a
>> different vantage without reshaping the arrangement space.  Although you
>> might record statistics on how words or even concepts are used there is
>> just no natural occurrence of semantic space that you can draw on.
>>
>> Since you need to use concepts in order to analyze concepts and since
>> concepts typically affect other concepts when they are used together there
>> is no such thing as a stable semantic space.
>>
>
>
> Thanks, I completely agree that the arrangement of semantic space is not
> constant.  The ontology is arranged like a set of basis vectors, but these
> bases can move according to new conceptions.  For example, we used to think
> of humans as distinct from animals, but after evolution theory the concept
> of "human" is brought closer to that of "animal".  So there is always an
> on-going interaction between the body of knowledge and the ontology upon
> which we classify / organize the knowledge.
>
> Of course, we hope that over time, our conceptual organization will
> stabilize, punctuated by some revolutions of ideas =)
>
>
> I was wondering if you could explain Cayley's diagram.  Can you tell me
>> what is meant by, "A sum of products is just the set union of such points,"?
>>
>
>
> Sorry I didn't explain sufficiently -- the Cayley diagram can represent
> any products of the form a*b*c... etc.  But it cannot represent terms like
> a*b*c + d*e*f + ....  So we need to find a way to represent 2  or more
> points added together.  I figured that it would be the set union of the
> points.  So they would appear on the diagram as *multiple* points.
>
> For example, I want to represent:
>    john is paul's father,   AND
>    paul is pete's father
> so these would be 2 points in the diagram.
>
> Now these 2 points would imply:
>    john is pete's grandfather.
> which is yet another point in the diagram.
>
> The implication order is:
>      point #1 + point #2 > point #3.
> But so far I only have the geometric picture of one point > another point.
>  It's not clear what's the geometric picture of "a sum of points > another
> point"....  I'm still thinking about that =)
>
> YKY
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