On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Piaget Modeler <[email protected]>wrote:
Any representation which offers reification (i.e., hypostatization) would
address your complexity concerns.


I disagree with your literal statement although I agree that is part of it.
Jim




On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Piaget Modeler <[email protected]>wrote:

> Any representation which offers reification (i.e., hypostatization) would
> address your complexity concerns.
>
> ~PM
>
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> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 18:38:02 -0400
> Subject: [agi] Composite Data Languages Are Necessary for AGI
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
>
>
> Many complicated computer programs may have something that acts much like
> what I am calling a composite data language, but I am arguing that an AGI
> program has to explicitly rely on such a thing to show sufficient
> scalability to act as a demo.  Furthermore, I am arguing that natural
> languages are composite data languages as well.
> I believe that an AGI program needs to be able to refer to the 'objects'
> of a 'situation' using combinations of referential 'data objects'.  Once
> these data objects are defined, the AGI program has to be able to generate
> new ways of referring to various composites of the subject matter in order
> to create simpler references for future use.  So then a composite data
> referent can be developed to refer to a combination of aspects of a
> 'situation' when it is effective to do so.  I believe that this system is
> absolutely necessary for AGI because the fundamental problem that faces us
> right now is one of AGI complexity.  By being able to create composite
> referents we might be able to significantly reduce the complexity problem.
> What I am saying here is that by carefully considering this point of view,
> I believe that some AGI programmers might be able to enhance their
> programming.
> A composite reference language has to be decomposed efficiently.  Neural
> Networks, for example, lack that ability and I believe that is part of the
> reason why they failed to live up to their early promise and hype.  The
> AGI program should typically be able to find some way to discover and look
> at the parts of a composite reference when it seems efficacious to do so.
> However, some composite references won't be easily decomposed.  The parts
> of a reference (the real world object being referred to, for example,)
> might be very difficult to discover.  But most of the referents should be
> partially decomposable.
> The fact that a referent is easily decomposable does not mean that a
> referent is easily composed from the parts.  If you know what the
> composite reference is supposed to mean, you can discover or decompose the
> parts from which it was composed by keeping the original reference in mind.
> However, when you begin drawing references (like 'words') together to form
> a new composite reference, the 'words' that you will be using will be taken
> from other previously existing composite references.  There is bound to
> be some confusion in this process but those issues can be reduced with
> experience.  But even if the composite references are easily
> decomposable, good compositions are more difficult.
> If my theory is right I should be able to create a good AGI demo within 2
> years.
> Jim Bromer
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