I know plenty about conceptual blending – so what? – other than that the authors are more cognitive embodied scientists.
From: Dimitry Volfson Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 11:59 PM To: AGI Subject: Re: [agi] A General O.D. (Operational Definition) for all AGI projects Look Up: "Conceptual Blending" on wikipedia. On 5/11/2013 4:25 AM, Mike Tintner wrote: What we’ve just seen with Jim is yet another example here of effective creative illiteracy –s.o. talking about their “creative” AGI project without any attempt at defining either its O.D. (the effect to be achieved) or an effective mechanism - without, to put that extremely crudely in common parlance, having any “idea”. To repeat, this is appalling – it’s simply non-creative and a waste of space. So to take further steps to eradicate this disease, let me put forward a general O.D. for A.G.I projects (and to some extent all culturally creative projects). Your project must have an E.M. for how BALL + BOX = BALLBOX i.e. you have to show how with only standard knowledge of two objects, balls & boxes, you can a) generate and/or b) understand a new, third object, “ball-box” that is derived from them by non-standard means. In this case, a BALLBOX is a box shaped like a ball rather than a cube. (That is a more concrete way of saying: “you must be able to show how your project can think outside the box”). Another example would be, you must have an E.M. for how CAT + DOG = CATOTAUR a creature, similar to a minotaur, half cat, half dog. Or, you must have an E.M. for how 2 + 2 = 5 again, your machine must from knowledge of standard maths be able to produce non-standard maths. (And for the benefit of “same old, same old” Matt, that does not mean googling an existing 2+2=5 “proof” – you have to generate/understand an altogether new one). Or, you must be able to show how 2 rocks + 2 rocks = 4 rocks. You must be able to show how having knowledge of how two rocks are laid, you can lay another two rocks on top of them. Laying rock walls is not a math operation like laying brick walls – each rock is individually formed and needs to be laid individually. (Or your system must just be able to recognize/conceptualise ROCK, since all rock forms are individual and non-standard). In all of these cases, you combine two objects to produce a third object that has never, to your knowledge, been derived from them before. You do “magic” – you put a rabbit in an empty hat and pull out a bird. You put a penis in a vagina and pull out a baby (“where did that come from?”) It’s a waste of time to even ask Jim to produce an O.D., but anyone serious about AGI will want to produce an O.D. with an E.M. - an explanation of a BALL BOX. AGI | Archives | Modify Your Subscription ____________________________________________________________ AGI | Archives | Modify Your Subscription No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3272 / Virus Database: 3162/6309 - Release Date: 05/08/13 ____________________________________________________________ Political system upset? Democrats BIG advantage in America about to completely vanish stansberryresearch.com ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com