The "architecture" is incremental: no blocks, just levels.
All I have is incremental-complexity comparison-evaluation operations, 
explained in the intro.
Everything else is learned, that's what makes it *general*.


From: Piaget Modeler 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 1:15 PM
To: AGI 
Subject: RE: [agi] Goal Selection


Perhaps architecture diagram would be a more specific term. 


What architecture implements your proposed system.  Can you draw it? 


Thanks,


~PM



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [agi] Goal Selection
Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 09:51:48 -0400


Michael,

> Do you have a diagram to go along with your explanation?

Depends what you're looking for. In humans, every part of the brain affects 
motivation & attention.
For GI, the only useful motive is curiosity (a drive to maximize predictive 
correspondence), &
"discrete components" are learned patterns, rather than built-in "modules".

The nearest thing to a diagram that I have is grouping levels of search by 
incremental order of distance
between comparands:
- Comparison of adjacent inputs, forming continuous patterns of incremental 
dimensionality (distance = 1): 
line segments: 1D, blobs: 2D, objects: 3D, & processes: 4D. This is similar to 
connected-component analysis.
- Cross-comparison across a whole queue of inputs, forming discontinuous 
patterns per input.(distance->n).
These patterns are fuzzy, & their overlap is compensated by selection among 
inputs to a next level.
- Comparison across a hierarchy of short-cuts to higher-level queues, generated 
by feedback (distance -> nn)...:
www.cognitivealgorithm.info.



> I'm looking at attention rather than motivation.
> For me, attention is the filtering or re-prioritization of goals. 

Attention is prioritizing areas of search, according to the weights assigned by 
combined motives (salience).
Conscious attention is WTA mechanism, imposed by our brain-to-body bottleneck: 
http://cognitive-focus.blogspot.com/2012/06/temporal-attention-span-our-dominant.html
This is irrelevant for GI because it shouldn't assume any fixed "body". 
What's relevant is distributed "unconscious" attention, which is a market-like 
mechanism that allocates 
cognitive resources to the areas of search, in proportion to their projected 
contribution to total
predictive correspondence of one's model of the environment. 

> In the PAM-P2 system I have an intuition that a higher level of selection 
> occurs than is explained than by basic action selection.

Right, this is a selection of "cognitive actions": prioritization of internal 
search, covered above.


> Motivation is handled in PAM-P2 through the use of homeostatic variables and 
> "urges",
> deltas between current and target homeostatic variable values. 

That's an equivalent of my "instincts", - a supervised learning part, 
irrelevant for GI per se.

> My intuition tells me that there should be another, higher level of goal 
> selection. (Or, perhaps goal
filtering, not exactly sure). Something that operates above action selection 
that takes into account 
all the possible goals the system could have and ensures that the most 
important at the current 
moment are part of the agenda.

Again, you're talking about the same thing from different POVs. 
"Goal" is a positive-value-charged state, or its internalized representation.
Motivation is what does this value-charging, thus determines the priority of 
searching though related internal representations & external sources.  



From: Piaget Modeler 
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 5:56 PM
To: AGI 
Subject: RE: [agi] Goal Selection


Hi Boris,  


Thanks for the references.  Do you have a diagram to go along with your 
explanation? 
That would be much appreciated.  A diagram helps the explanatory cloud to be 
decomposed 
into discrete components.


I'm looking at attention rather than motivation.  Motivation is handled in 
PAM-P2 through the 
use of homeostatic variables and "urges", deltas between current and target 
homeostatic variable 
values.  For me, attention is the filtering or re-prioritization of goals.  In 
the PAM-P2 system I have an 
intuition that a higher level of selection occurs than is explained than by 
basic action selection.


In PAM-P2 there are two action selectors: the Reactor, which matches existing 
solutions 
to sensory stimuli, and the Deliberator which matches existing solutions with 
active situations 
and needs (goals).  Both action selectors operate in a case based manner, where 
"solutions"
are the cases.  Once a solution is selected, it may generate subgoals to assist 
in attaining the
overall solution. 


My intuition tells me that there should be another, higher level of goal 
selection. (Or, perhaps goal
filtering, not exactly sure). Something that operates above action selection 
that takes into account 
all the possible goals the system could have and ensures that the most 
important at the current 
moment are part of the agenda.  

Your thoughts?


~PM



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [agi] Goal Selection
Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 17:15:51 -0400


You're really trying to understand how human motivation works. I already posted 
this, but in case you missed:

Human motivation: developmental perspective.


Motivation is all mental mechanisms that drive our behavior, in which I include 
cognitive behavior: analysis, introspection, & planning for somatic behavior. 
Values / motives in humans & higher animals can be divided into three broad 
categories, according to the mechanism that formed or selected them:

Evolution selects instincts fit for their own propagation, innate but 
subsequently modulated by usage, 
Conditioning value-charges stimuli coincident with previously value-loaded 
stimuli in time or space, 
Cognitive curiosity searches / selects for predictive patterns, even if they 
consist of value-free stimuli.

Higher mechanisms accelerate adaptive value acquisition by acting on 
increasingly mediated responses: from immediate behavioral reactions to 
longer-term attention, prediction, & planning.
Brain areas that implement these value-acquisition mechanisms likely evolved in 
the same sequence:

Instincts, largely physiological & traceable to 4Fs, are encoded mainly in 
brainstem & hypothalamus. 
Conditioning is initiated by basal ganglia & limbic system, then extended & 
generalized by neocortex. 
Predictive curiosity is an innate driver of neocortex, which is also heavily 
modulated by lower motives.

This scheme is vaguely similar to triune brain model, but in my interpretation 
these substrates differ mainly in the mechanism by which they acquire values, 
rather than in resulting & relatively transient motives themselves. These value 
acquisition mechanisms are innate, but their relative strength varies.

Our instincts are pretty basic & similar to those of other mammals. An 
excellent account of that level of motivation is Jaak Panksepp‘s “Archaeology 
of Mind: Neuroevolutionary Origins of Human Emotions“. The discussion below is 
mostly on conditioning & cognition: increasingly adaptive mechanisms which seem 
to strengthen with our personal growth:


http://cognitive-focus.blogspot.com/2012/06/motivation-evolution-of-value.html

 



From: Piaget Modeler 
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 4:17 PM
To: AGI 
Subject: RE: [agi] Goal Selection


Getting Closer: 


Top-down versus bottom up attentional control: a failed theoretical dichotomy



http://ems.psy.vu.nl/userpages/theeuwes/Trends_2012_Awh.pdf


The priority map notion is closer to what I was looking for.  
I know that priorities fit in somehow.


~PM




      AGI | Archives  | Modify Your Subscription   

      AGI | Archives  | Modify Your Subscription  

      AGI | Archives  | Modify Your Subscription   

      AGI | Archives  | Modify Your Subscription  

      AGI | Archives  | Modify Your Subscription   



-------------------------------------------
AGI
Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now
RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424
Modify Your Subscription: 
https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657
Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com

Reply via email to