Honestly I think that the concept of "space faring civilizations" is yet
another technology-timeframe-relevance-bias. The same level of
technology that might render space travel safe and efficient will
probably already trigger the technological Singularity. (You will want
to have proto-AGI systems controlling space ships and for navigation
etc. ...) So I don't think that space travel, big space ships, Mars
colonies or asteroid mining will ever become relevant. They are just
assumptions/extrapolations of a pre-Singularity civilization. The
argument that we need to colonize other planets for increased redundancy
will probably also look ridiculous to a post-Singularity life form. See
John Smart's Transcension Hypothesis for example.
On 05/25/2013 03:18 AM, Piaget Modeler wrote:
It would certainly be interesting to see what technologies aliens have.
I don't think the Singularity would mean as much to space faring
civilizations
as it does to us here on earth, since the Singularity is couched in
terms of a
contest for resources here on earth. If humans were also space faring
then
would there be a need to worry about whether or not computers would
take over Earth?
What if we have been monitored for the past few centuries by an alien
civilization having the Moon as a way-station? Would that be of any
import?
~PM
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> Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 02:56:22 -0700
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [agi] Extraterrestrial Life and AGI
>
> Would you agree that any extraterrestrial life form we might ever have
> meaningful contact with during our pre-Singularity phase will have
to be
> a post-Singularity civilization and thus most likely feature/consist of
> AGI technology?
>
> The amount of spacetime which that life form would have to overcome in
> order to visit us would probably be enough to trigger a technological
> Singularity even if they went out as a pre-Singularity species? They
> might of course be able to manipulate spacetime itself ... but I guess
> it is safe to assume that this already would represent a
> post-Singularity or almost-Singularity technology? Also if they manage
> to obtain a spacetime-manipulating technology they would probably be
> able to recall the more primitive vessel (which they might have sent
out
> earlier) in some way and send a new one?
>
> That likely would mean that as a pre-Singularity species you can
only be
> found/contacted and that finding inevitably only happens as a
> post-Singularity life form?
>
> This of course would make SETI even more pointless (unless the alien
AGI
> thingy floats around within our solar system's vicinity in a detectable
> form, fully aware of our presence and without any incentive of
> contacting us ... and that combination seems rather
> illogical/improbable?) and most sci-fi movies involving human contact
> with non superintelligent/godlike/semi-AIXI-like aliens even more
> unrealistic?
>
> kind regards,
>
> camel
>
>
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