I haven't started testing an AGI concepts because I am still working
on the data management parts of the program. However, I am hoping to
be doing something more interesting by 2014 at the latest. I think
that earlier in the year (2013) I mentioned that I had a great many
ideas - or test 'cases' in mind. The way my program would work would
make it fairly easy for me to redesign it so that it could work with
simpler cases. I will try to think of a way to explain this. My
opinion is that if I have a good sense of what AGI has to do then I
can define very simple experiments that could work to produce AGI with
better conceptual management and more power. Here I am claiming that
I can discern some programming techniques ("conceptual management")
that would increase the potential for AGI as something as something
that can be discerned from more computer power. I will try to think of
a few test cases.
Jim Bromer
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Matt Mahoney <[email protected]> wrote:
> Do you have any test cases?
>
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Jim Bromer <[email protected]> wrote:
>> At the end of December 2012 I said that I felt that I had figured out
>> a way to write an AGI program. I then said that if someone really did
>> have it all figured out that he should be able to write the program in
>> a year. I then changed that to two years. For one thing we should
>> give a researcher, even an amateur researcher - especially an amateur
>> researcher - some leeway. And for another, it should be clear that
>> writing an AGI program that could actually work must be pretty
>> difficult. I also added that other contingencies, like health, could
>> intervene on the schedule. But I then pointed out that there are some
>> indicators that should make it clear that the programmer really did
>> not have it all figured out. Like if he worked on it for 5 months and
>> still had not started in on experimenting with some actual AGI
>> situations then that would be an indicator that he wasn't working at
>> as advanced a level as he might think. Expanding that to twice that
>> length is 10 months and I am there. However, I did have a worrisome
>> health problem that really did cost me about a month's time of work.
>> So this means that if I am not working on the AGI experiments within
>> the next month, after 11 months have passed, then I believe that will
>> be a strong indicator that I really did not have it all figured out -
>> as I felt that I had last December.
>>
>> One of the hang-ups that I got into was that I wanted to write my own
>> data management system. It has been an interesting project but I
>> probably should have used a simple data management system in a very
>> direct way so that I could get to work on the AGI prototype. If I
>> actually got the prototype to a promising stage I could then have
>> worked on the data management system. That is a reasonable point of
>> view. However, there is an alternative view. A conceptual management
>> system, in my opinion, is going to be complicated. If I can't write a
>> simple foundational data management system then I probably would not
>> be able to manage a conceptual management system. So from this
>> alternative point of view, all the time I have been spending on trying
>> to write my own very basic data management system may turn out to have
>> been a reasonable investment, given my goal.
>>
>> I just started thinking about a problem that I would have if I shared
>> my program. My program is converting the various arrays it has into
>> byte arrays to save them to disk using a fundamental strategy that I
>> found in the .net help files. However, that means that most of the
>> data will be saved according to the Little-Endian implementation of my
>> computer and I just started wondering how I would make the files
>> available to other kinds of implementations. I guess I could write a
>> simple conditional algorithm for the file accesses so it doesn't seem
>> like it would be a big deal.
>>
>> But even worse than that, the files would be such a security risk I am
>> not even sure that they should be casually shared. So how should I
>> deal with this problem? I'm not going to worry about it now. This is
>> exactly the sort of thing that I shouldn't be worrying about because I
>> should be more focused on developing a prototype. If the prototype
>> actually worked then I probably will be able to find a way to deal
>> with these side issues. Or at least the Little-Big-Endian problem
>> looks simple.
>>
>> But the shared file security problem is not that important to me right
>> now because I have to try to avoid the pitfalls of additional
>> complications. I have to focus on getting the project to the next
>> stage and just see what happens then.
>>
>> Jim Bromer
>>
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