This doesn't make any sense. The concept of creativity may refer to different kinds of abilities (or effects) but that does not mean that the term is too biased and too ambiguous and fuzzy. (I don't understand what you are saying.) And why is it self-referential and why wouldn't AGI need to posses references to itself - if the self includes methods and properties of cognition (which is presumably what creativity is.)
1. Many terms have different meanings in different contexts. 2. Many concepts are fuzzy and ambiguous. 3. An ability to refer to what the (artificial) mind does is absolutely necessary for AGI. I guess I have almost no idea what you are saying. On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 7:12 AM, John Rose <[email protected]> wrote: > The question is actually in some ways recursively self-referential. > > > > The concept of creativity as developed inherently references self either > as the possessor of the creativity, or as observer or as definer. Was > creativity ever really meant to be mathematically defined. And does AGI > ever need to possess references to self? The term creativity might be too > biased of a concept loaded with ambiguous and fuzzy domains. > > > > It might be better to originate mathematical concepts that fulfill part of > what creativity is in function instead of reverse-engineering something > that is inherently and messily human. > > > > John > > > > *From:* Samantha Atkins [mailto:[email protected]] > *Subject:* Re: [agi] Abstract Creativity > > > > Surely the question is poorly formulated. > > > > On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 3:38 PM, John Rose <[email protected]> wrote: > > Should a mathematical definition of creativity include self? > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/24379807-f5817f28> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > -- Jim Bromer ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
