This seems like a rather poor definition of intelligence. There is no way to get a handle on all future possibilities. It is also not guaranteed that intelligence will not eliminate all but a few alternatives that it prefers. It is not obvious that it will simply keep as many options open as possible.
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Mike Archbold <[email protected]> wrote: > Just a note that this is an example of a physics-first to AGI. Is > there any science that HASN'T been used a starting point for AGI? > There really should be a science of starting points in AI. To me it > should be metaphysics, but that is just me, I realize.... > > On 2/9/14, John Rose <[email protected]> wrote: > > Intelligence has heat and heat dissipates. > > > > > > > > Did I miss anything? > > > > > > > > Oh and Entropica can play pong with itself J > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > From: Tim Tyler [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2014 3:51 PM > > To: AGI > > Subject: [agi] A new equation for intelligence? > > > > > > > > Here's Alex Wissner-Gross's TED presentation - on the > > "maximizing options" theory of intelligence and "Entropica". > > > > "Alex Wissner-Gross: A new equation for intelligence" > > > > - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue2ZEmTJ_Xo > > > > It seems as though this is a redefinition of intelligence. Intelligence, > > conventionally, involves a broad-spectrum ability at achieving goals. > > Keeping your options open seems more like a common instrumental > > value. > > > > Go and chess playing are not, in fact, about "keeping your options > > open". They are all about winning the game. If that involves > > eliminating future options and bringing the game to an end, so be it. > > > > I'm actually a fan of the idea of a strong link between entropy > > generation and intelligence. Rather ironically, I see the link as > > going the other way - at least most of the time. As intelligence > > systems evolved, they have got better and better at seeking out > > energy gradients and dissipating them. That's why we developed > > nuclear fission, for instance. > > > > Such behaviour doesn't "keep future options open" - rather it > > accelerates universal heat death. Intelligent systems might > > *sometimes* conserve energy resources - in the way that Wissner-Gross > > suggests - but it is much more common for them to burn through > > them and convert them into offspring - and in those few cases > > where resources are conserved, it is *usually* to burn through > > them only *slightly* later on. > > > > The "keeping your options open" theory of intelligence seems > > silly to me. I'm concerned that the real intelligence-entropy > > link will be polluted by association with this daft idea. > > -- > > __________ > > |im |yler http://timtyler.org/ [email protected] Remove lock to reply. > > > > > > AGI | <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> Archives > > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/248029-3b178a58> | > > <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> > > Modify Your Subscription > > > > <http://www.listbox.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > > AGI > > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > > RSS Feed: > https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/11943661-d9279dae > > Modify Your Subscription: > > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/2997756-fc0b9b09 > Modify Your Subscription: > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
