Chunking would not typically be randomly selected. My sense is that it would (or could) represent higher level representations of more detailed automated systems. Then the chunk could be broken up and replaced by related chunks as need be. I always wondered about the theory since it is intended to represent how the conscious mind deals with stuff. It might be reasonable to say that the underlying details are automated except for those chunks which are formed to give consciousness some control. I always assumed that the chunking theory was meant to show that the mind works in a hierarchal manner in some way, but perhaps the mind creates special kinds of algorithms for conscious thought to work with. These special algorithms then can call automated processes (automatic thinking) which are more like learned habits (and innate tendencies.) I feel that I can choose random samples but I know that we go about it in a noticeably non-random way.
Anyway, it sounds like a reasonable plan. As the AGI program in my theory learns it could create efficient automated algorithms. But in order for the program to exercise judgment (artificial judgment in my theory), it would have to have check points where special kinds of decision algorithms could inspect something of what was happening, use related knowledge to consider the events and results of what was happening, and then make simple calls to more automatic processes. It could use more sophisticated reasoning to determine what automated processes to call. This fits the chunking theory into theories about automatic thinking and conscious judgment. Jim Bromer On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 11:31 PM, Piaget Modeler <[email protected]>wrote: > What you use it for depends on where you're going with it. > > In your AGI architecture you may have a need to chunk activated > concepts or percepts. Then, for example, you could call > > (new concept :elements (chunk (activated-items))) > > at some point. It's your design. You tell me how you'd use it. > > ~PM > > ------------------------------ > Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 18:35:21 -0700 > Subject: Re: [agi] Premise function of the day: Chunk > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > > Not sure I get what you are trying to say. > The random,pick and chunk functions are simple enough. I presume the > chunk referred to is how much you can hold in your conscious attention > because that is where I know 7 +- 2 and those individuals relation from. > > So why is picking a churk sized set thinks randomly from a larger set of > interest? Where are you going with it? Hopefully the brain isn't just > focusing on random things although often mine feels as if it is. :) > > > On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Piaget Modeler > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > function *chunk *{?list} > (pick (+ 7 (random -2 2)) ?list) > end > > Out of curiosity, why do you adopt S-expressions only partially in the > language syntax? > > Cheers, > Telmo. > > > For style, and clarity Telmo -- and so we don't get bored. Visually, the > above > format is easier to parse. > > We call S-Expressions "forms". To invoke any function you need a form. > But certain definitions like module or function definitions can be made as > statements (see above) and not forms. > > Note that these statements can also be written as forms. We could just as > easily write > > (function *chunk *{?list} > (pick (+ 7 (random -2 2)) ?list)) > > which would be also recognized by the evaluator as a valid expression. > > Also note that forms, surrounded by parentheses ( ), are different from > lists, > which are surrounded by braces { }. > > Cheers, > > Michael. / ~ PM > > > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/2997756-fc0b9b09> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > > > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/19999924-4a978ccc> | > Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/24379807-f5817f28> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
