Ben, I'm already five steps ahead of you. Hence why you have acceptable use cases NOW ;) You need to unify the reference mechanism from both a human and machine perspective. Conceptnet, back when it first was just a couple of languages based on wordnet, was what got me to realize it'll take you people decades to do real AI and then some :) Fortunately, we have a core ontology for the NEW web. It is similar to a thesaurus because it groups together terms in disjoint collections of mostly similar concepts and it is like a dictionary because it can also include multiple, multi-lingual definitions. It is also an ontology because it defines relations and properties that describe how the terms can be linked together or bind them to web, computerized information resources.
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 7:00 AM, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote: > > Azn, I don't have current plans to create a new ontology, nor does anyone > else within the OpenCog orbit so far as I know > > OpenCog doesn't need an externally-specified ontology to do its > thinking.... However, an external ontology can be useful to bypass > issues of disambiguation, i.e. to allow users (humans or other software > programs) to specify queries or data in a relatively unambiguous way > > For this purpose, I think ConceptNet is OK, though I'm not particularly > married to it. We have also experimented with SUMO, which is smaller but > more complex... > > ben > > > On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 1:37 AM, Azn A <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Ben, do you plan to create a top-level ontology also known as a >> foundation ontology i.e http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_ontology for >> this system? It should be entirely constructed and described with its own >> ontology entries based on the topic map standard. >> >> >> >> On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 12:48 AM, Anastasios Tsiolakidis <[email protected] >> > wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On 12.04.2014, at 05:22, "Ben Goertzel" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> I think it might make sense to separate things so that we have >>> >>> >>> -- requests that refer to a specific Atomspace that has already been >>> >>> instantiated and populated >>> >>> >>> While I think you may just have encountered one of the reasons we don't >>> have AGI APIs, quite a few of the "selections" and "references" are >>> AGI-complete one way or another, for example in a face-to-face conversation >>> the utterance "that's not it" has to be evaluated in several (all?) >>> contexts before the "correct" interpretation is recovered: is it about what >>> I am doing now, is it about what you are doing, is it about the 2-3 topics >>> we've been discussing. You could perhaps "pretend" that starting this >>> conversation created a top-level context, but I do not see how you can >>> prevent an explosion of nested contexts. One way out is to accept there is >>> only one gigantic context called "me", another would be to limit the >>> contexts to something like sales, billing, tech, but then there goes the G >>> out of the AI. >>> >>> Well anyway, one API is better than no API :) >>> >>> AT >>> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >>> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/10514698-9a8cda1e> | >>> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >>> <http://www.listbox.com> >>> >> >> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/212726-deec6279> | >> Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription >> <http://www.listbox.com> >> > > > > -- > Ben Goertzel, PhD > http://goertzel.org > > "In an insane world, the sane man must appear to be insane". -- Capt. > James T. Kirk > > "Emancipate yourself from mental slavery / None but ourselves can free our > minds" -- Robert Nesta Marley > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/10514698-9a8cda1e> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
